Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild problem

2009-04-04 Thread Nick Fortino
John P. Burkett wrote: > Doing revdep-rebuild on an amd64 machine, I received a response > the included the following lines: > * All prepared. Starting rebuild > emerge --oneshot app-text/xpdf:0 > gnome-base/gnome-panel:0 > kde-base/kdegraphics:3.5 > mail-client/-MERGING-evolution:2.0 > media-plug

[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild problem

2009-04-04 Thread John P. Burkett
Doing revdep-rebuild on an amd64 machine, I received a response the included the following lines: * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot app-text/xpdf:0 gnome-base/gnome-panel:0 kde-base/kdegraphics:3.5 mail-client/-MERGING-evolution:2.0 media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad:0.8 media-plugins/

[gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harry Putnam wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > >>> On next boot, the problem with hal daemon reported above started. >> and you did etc-update/cfg-update after the update? Have you read the >> messages >> with elogv? Same hal versions here -

[gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> No I didn't do the update... As reported in OP, I actually wasn't done >> with the follup chores to an update, and shutdown from a remote due to >> absentminded pea brainedness. >> >> I'm doing that now via ssh. Maybe things will improve... >> >> >> > > W

[gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: >> >> On next boot, the problem with hal daemon reported above started. > > and you did etc-update/cfg-update after the update? Have you read the > messages > with elogv? Same hal versions here - no problems at all. I've completed the cfg-update -u and there was on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> On Friday 03 April 2009, Daniel da Veiga wrote: >>> >>> I would still think its a problema. >>> People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the >>> handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already >>> answere

[gentoo-user] Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Once again I find myself with a big mess following an update world. This time I was probably out of date by more than 1 mnth, probably less than 2. On first reboot the bootup proceeds well into level 3, right up to starting hal daemon. There is sets forever. Since its past the point where ss

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: > No I didn't do the update... As reported in OP, I actually wasn't done > with the follup chores to an update, and shutdown from a remote due to > absentminded pea brainedness. > > I'm doing that now via ssh. Maybe things will improve... > > > Well, if you will cross your

[gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale writes: > Since you can ssh into the system, could you remove hald from the > default runlevel and reboot? I'm not sure about the keyboard and mouse > after that tho. At least maybe you can get to a console. As reported in OP, I sshed in and stopped the start of hald.. that allowed boot t

Re: [gentoo-user] simple firewall

2009-04-04 Thread Roy Wright
gigli wrote: > I wonder if there is any easy firewall for gentoo. I tried ubuntu for a > while and used their ufw, which was very simple. > > My needs: > > Block incoming traffic except for sshd and https (and sometimes > bittorrent) and allow my lan to connect to my samba share, mythtv and > mys

Re: [gentoo-user] simple firewall

2009-04-04 Thread forgottenwizard
On 00:24 Sun 05 Apr, gigli wrote: > Hi > > I wonder if there is any easy firewall for gentoo. I tried ubuntu for a > while and used their ufw, which was very simple. > > My needs: > > Block incoming traffic except for sshd and https (and sometimes > bittorrent) and allow my lan to connect to my

Re: [gentoo-user] Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 05 April 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: > Once again I find myself with a big mess following an update world. > This time I was probably out of date by more than 1 mnth, probably > less than 2. > > On first reboot the bootup proceeds well into level 3, right up to > starting hal daemon. > > Th

[gentoo-user] Re: Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > But I can ssh into the box. > > What should I supply here to allow someone to help diagnose the > problem? > > Recent info on hal from `qlop --list|grep hal' > > Sun Feb 15 10:52:16 2009 >>> app-misc/hal-info-20090202 > Sun Feb 15 10:54:45 2009 >>> sys-apps/hal-0.5.11-r8

Re: [gentoo-user] Another Jacked up mess on update - hal daemon

2009-04-04 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: > Once again I find myself with a big mess following an update world. > This time I was probably out of date by more than 1 mnth, probably > less than 2. > > On first reboot the bootup proceeds well into level 3, right up to > starting hal daemon. > > There is sets forever.

Re: [gentoo-user] verifying GCC version program was compiled with

2009-04-04 Thread Joseph
On 04/04/09 23:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml This is complete nonsense advice. There is absolutely no need to rebuild the entire system every time you upgrade compilers, and whoever told you that is flat out wrong. If the gentoo docs told y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:38:45 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > There is such a thing as a prerequisite level of expertise. Every field > has this and every field SHOULD enforce it. You don't get to drive a > car on a public road till you have proven that you have learned how to > drive a car, and you d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 05 April 2009 00:07:12 Mike Edenfield wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > This mythical thing - a working installer - probably does not exist and > > likely never will. > > This may be true, and it certainly is the case right now. > But that's not a good reason to reject one out of hand > b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 05 April 2009 00:11:08 Mike Edenfield wrote: > > I would still think its a problema. > > People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the > > handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already > > answered and handbook questions. > > Aside from this being

[gentoo-user] simple firewall

2009-04-04 Thread gigli
Hi I wonder if there is any easy firewall for gentoo. I tried ubuntu for a while and used their ufw, which was very simple. My needs: Block incoming traffic except for sshd and https (and sometimes bittorrent) and allow my lan to connect to my samba share, mythtv and mysql when i use openvpn or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones "show stopper" list of Gentoo defects. G

Re: [gentoo-user] verifying GCC version program was compiled with

2009-04-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 04.04.2009 23:55: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 23:42:54 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: >> Joseph schrieb am 04.04.2009 22:48: >>> Is there a way to verify GCC version program was compiled with? >>> I just want to check if all the programs were compiled with latest GCC >>> version a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
Alan McKinnon wrote: This mythical thing - a working installer - probably does not exist and likely never will. This may be true, and it certainly is the case right now. But that's not a good reason to reject one out of hand before you even see it. There are just too many decisions the hum

Re: [gentoo-user] verifying GCC version program was compiled with

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 23:42:54 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > Joseph schrieb am 04.04.2009 22:48: > > Is there a way to verify GCC version program was compiled with? > > I just want to check if all the programs were compiled with latest GCC > > version as I'm getting an errors at time to time. > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] verifying GCC version program was compiled with

2009-04-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Joseph schrieb am 04.04.2009 22:48: > Is there a way to verify GCC version program was compiled with? > I just want to check if all the programs were compiled with latest GCC > version as I'm getting an errors at time to time. I don't think it is possible to get the compiler or it's version used f

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 22:42:00 Norman Rieß wrote: > I am annoyed by a little more generous thing lately, which i am afraid > isn't fixable by a summer of code. But you wanted to know what annoys > me, so here it is. > > There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of > s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:50:51 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I am sitting on the toilet with your article before me. Soon it will > > be behind me. > Brilliant fortune! And I know just the manager who's email is gonna get > the fortune appended to the end of every reply... I think it is a Winst

[gentoo-user] verifying GCC version program was compiled with

2009-04-04 Thread Joseph
Is there a way to verify GCC version program was compiled with? I just want to check if all the programs were compiled with latest GCC version as I'm getting an errors at time to time. -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Norman Rieß
I am annoyed by a little more generous thing lately, which i am afraid isn't fixable by a summer of code. But you wanted to know what annoys me, so here it is. There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of sancho fixed this. But i had to use this new version from the deve

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 21:36:00 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:41:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> Second computer with the same symptoms ... this is not machine > >> specific. Anyone else come across this problem? > > > > I rarely use kgpg, but I just checked and mine is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 21:28:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Neil Bothwick > > I am sitting on the toilet with your article before me. Soon it will be > behind me. OK, OK, I know this is so completely and totally OT. But I don't care, and I've been around here long enough to get away with it: Bri

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:06:49 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: > > emerge flagedit > > Yes, flagedit sure helps on a single box, but when running several > Gentoo boxes, with slightly differing USE settings, arches and whatnot > (firewall, server, old box for light browsing/office work, new-ish > multimedia/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:41:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > > >> Second computer with the same symptoms ... this is not machine >> specific. Anyone else come across this problem? >> > > I rarely use kgpg, but I just checked and mine is the same. > > > I looked at mine a whil

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:54:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'd like a way to completely lock a package to the current running > version, and be able to do something like this: > > emerge --lock > > emerge could then move the ebuild to a local overlay, mask out higher > versions, and remember th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:41:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > Second computer with the same symptoms ... this is not machine > specific. Anyone else come across this problem? I rarely use kgpg, but I just checked and mine is the same. -- Neil Bothwick I am sitting on the toilet with your article before me

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:55:47 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: > > Do you really need to know EXACTLY how many? Or > > can you just accept a little patience as the cost of using Gentoo? > > I'd be happy for a modest, rough guesstimator. A "Gentoo emerge > weather forecast"-gauge/meter if you will. :) Befo

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Thomas Kahle
Wyatt Epp wrote: > Greets, > > So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that > I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things > like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask > at a time. So I was curious...what have people

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 4/4/09, Stroller wrote: > Do you really need to know EXACTLY how many? Or > can you just accept a little patience as the cost of using Gentoo? I'd be happy for a modest, rough guesstimator. A "Gentoo emerge weather forecast"-gauge/meter if you will. :) I'm currently running boxes from ~1Ghz u

[gentoo-user] Re: Kgpg 1.2.2 does not show email addresses ...

2009-04-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 March 2009, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > I just noticed today that my kgpg 1.2.2 (using KDE 3.5.9) is not showing > the email addresses of the public keys contained in it - i.e. the names are > blank. User IDs and signature email addresses are shown fine when one > expands the tree. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [04.04.09 09:57]: > > emerge --lock > I find this suggestion very good, and would like to ask the more experienced participants, if such thing was thought of before. I'm thinking about some options to freeze a system totally, servers would like this,

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 4/4/09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: > >> - Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget >> around /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/package.use and such with >> everyone's favourite text editors. (Maybe I'm micromanaging them too >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Dominic Kexel
I am using Gentoo for some years now, and installing Gentoo on a new box isn't hard at all, but you have to be prepared. You need a running linux-system, a live-CD (or USB-Stick), and the handbook. So, i have SLAX and the handbook on my USB-Stick which i use to install Gentoo. Boot SLAX, look at t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 10:59:35 ABCD wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > What could work is a way to do these checks during the initial phase so > > you get told about it before the actual building starts, just like with > > blockers. > > Which is exactly how it works, now, with the new USE-deps (

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: [...] - Difficulty of predicting how long some new package compilations (with dependencies, upgrades and revdep-rebuilds etc) will actually take (genlop -t only knows about individual packages that have been emerged befo

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan McKinnon wrote: > What could work is a way to do these checks during the initial phase so you > get told about it before the actual building starts, just like with blockers. > Which is exactly how it works, now, with the new USE-deps (before yo

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Stroller
On 4 Apr 2009, at 08:56, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: ... - Difficulty of predicting how long some new package compilations (with dependencies, upgrades and revdep-rebuilds etc) will actually take (genlop -t only knows about individual packages that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Nikos Chantziaras (rea...@arcor.de) [04.04.09 03:55]: > > I thought about it and I would still like an installer. People asked me > "I want that too" after they see what Gentoo can do and is about. I > could help them learn to keep their Gentoo healthy and running, but I am > not willing to

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-04 Thread Graham Murray
Mike Kazantsev writes: > -mtune=native can be dropped if -march=native is there already. It is still worthwhile keeping it in CFLAGS as some packages remove or replace the '-march' flag.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Dale
Dan Cowsill wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Daniel da Veiga > wrote: > >> I would still think its a problema. >> People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the >> handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already >> answered and handbook questions.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 09:59:15 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > bash > > vi > > tar > > emerge > > > > Note that these are the *exact* *same* *tools* you are going to use > > every day after the install is done. > > You must be joking, I wouldn'

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 01:24:58 Arttu V. wrote: > - Portage 2.2 stopping dead with "you should re-emerge foo with USE=bar" > with the new cat/foo[bar]-style dependencies. Sadly, that one is unavoidable. You have a circumstance where it is not possible to continue and the missing bit must be fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > bash > vi > tar > emerge > > Note that these are the *exact* *same* *tools* you are going to use > every day after the install is done. You must be joking, I wouldn't be caught dead using the first two ;-) -- Neil Bothwick DCE seeks D

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: > - Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget > around /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/package.use and such with > everyone's favourite text editors. (Maybe I'm micromanaging them too > much?) emerge flagedit > - Keeping

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 03 April 2009 23:46:44 Mark Knecht wrote: >I think you may be correct, but the problem still exist. The > problem is that you can be running an driver on your system. The > portage maintainers depreciate it. the ebuilds get stripped form my > machine. Sometime later I choose to clean

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:14:05 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I like the idea but does it solve the root-cause issue - whatever that > might really be - for portage maintainers removing ebuilds and code in > the first place? If it was in the sunset overlay then we'd say they > don't have to support it a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 03 April 2009 22:11:28 Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. > > I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones > "show stopper" list of Gentoo defects. Gentoo doesn't *

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 problem

2009-04-04 Thread Hung Dang
Hi Alan, Thanks a lot for a quick reply. It turn out that I need to activate LVM at the boot time using rc-update. Hung Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:36:08 Hung Dang wrote: > >> Hi all >> I have a strange problem with LVM2. I follow this guide >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 problem

2009-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:36:08 Hung Dang wrote: > Hi all > I have a strange problem with LVM2. I follow this guide > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml to create the LVM2 volume named vg > then create the logical volume /dev/vg/data. Everything went fine and I > can mount the volume /dev/vg/

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-04 Thread Christopher Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > Has one of you guys already switched from gcc-4.1.2 to gcc-4.3.2 and > performed "emerge system" ? > What gives ? Any problem ? Is it worth it right now ? Please tell... > > -- > ~adj~ I am afraid I can't really