On 4/4/09, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:24:58 +0300, Arttu V. wrote: > >> - Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget >> around /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/package.use and such with >> everyone's favourite text editors. (Maybe I'm micromanaging them too >> much?) > > emerge flagedit
Yes, flagedit sure helps on a single box, but when running several Gentoo boxes, with slightly differing USE settings, arches and whatnot (firewall, server, old box for light browsing/office work, new-ish multimedia/gaming workstation, a laptop, one with radeon-drivers, another with nvidia-drivers etc), it all tends to get a bit hairy. What I'm maybe thinking about is some kind of Microsoft AD / SUS style or similar pushing parts of policies or changes across all boxes in a domain (or whatever they call them there). But then again, if that is a priority, then running Windows or CentOS Linux with Red Hat's stuff might be better for that than Gentoo in the first place? :) >> - Keeping the crud out of /etc/portage/package.keywords and other >> similar portage files (much like with the case of USE flags above) for >> us who don't run bleeding edge ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="arch ~arch". > > eix-test-obsolete That was a good call, thank you! I have been avoiding eix for various reasons, but now I emerged it and tried it. Blindfolded and both hands tied behind its back eix-test-obselete beat my own embarrassingly simplistic helper perl-scripts. Very good indeed, thanks! > Would you rather portage simply re-emerged installed packages with > different USE flags without consulting you? I suppose a "package X needs > to be remerged with USE=Y, proceed Y/n" message could be useful, maybe > with an option to do accept this automatically. Yes, I think this is more of a default settings issue. I'm betting 999/1000 cases or even worse, the user/admin just goes and emerges the dep with the required USE anyway. So why waste the time (or introduce compulsory interactivity) from most people and not have it as a default? Ok, I admit, it might create some really hairy situations for deep trees when some critical system package would get silently re-emerged with a new flag -- but maybe the automagic could only work for packages not in system/@system? Then there would be hope of having a reasonably sane box (command line) remaining even if the automagic in the emerge would end up shooting yourself in the foot ... > Gentoo is about providing ultimate control to the admin, so you can't > really complain about having to make those choices :) Hrpmft, I thought by now -- after about a decade or so of development of the brightest young minds of planet Earth -- there would be a package available in Gentoo with a command or script like eix-do-what-i-mean(t). ;) -- Arttu V.
