Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Philip Webb
090321 Mike Diehl wrote: > Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage > that I've seen in Gentoo in the last few months. I haven't experienced any such thing. > I'm trying to upgrade MythTV. I don't use that, so can't help directly. > Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which I did.

[gentoo-user] Re: extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 21 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > It's correct, and it also highlights just what a PITA it is to > manipulate traditional disk partitions. With lvm, this becomes a > breeze. With ZFS (we might see it one day) this becomes invisible. I thought it was already there: sys-fs/zfs-fuse

[gentoo-user] Re: extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 14:13 -0700, BRM wrote: > > With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate > > to also mention the risk. > > > > On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to > > upgrade partitions every n

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Mike Diehl wrote: > > On Saturday 21 March 2009 21:00:11 Dale wrote: > > > Mike Kazantsev wrote: > > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 > > > > > > > > Mike Diehl wrote: > > > >> Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer > suitable for > > > >> normal, every day, usage? > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Diehl
On Saturday 21 March 2009 21:00:11 Dale wrote: > Mike Kazantsev wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 > > > > Mike Diehl wrote: > >> Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for > >> normal, every day, usage? > > > > If you're prepared to update you system at lea

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 > Mike Diehl wrote: > > >> Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for >> normal, every day, usage? >> > > If you're prepared to update you system at least once a week and > have up-to-date knowledge of

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 14:13 -0700, BRM wrote: > With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate to also > mention the risk. > > On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to upgrade > partitions every now and then and my previous solution was add another >

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 Mike Diehl wrote: > Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for > normal, every day, usage? If you're prepared to update you system at least once a week and have up-to-date knowledge of all the installed stuff, so you can at least m

[gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Diehl
Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in Gentoo in the last few months. I'm trying to upgrade MythTV. Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which I did. Now I'm doing an emerge -u world. But before I could do that, I had to upgrade portage, with made sense. Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:58:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the > > temperature get quite high. lm_sensors includes a daemon that will > > monitor temperatures and send warnings and alarms. > I may be wrong here, but doesn't it just shut of

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:13:49 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote: > So, unless you are looking to use LVM in a soft-RAID solution between > multiple physical drives, not multiple partitions on the same drive, > (e.g. partition A = sda1 + sda2, with mirror on sdb1+sdb2), then I > would not suggest it as should

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:58:05 -0500 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > >> What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems > >> down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. > > > > Most BIOSes will do this automaticall

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems >> down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. >> > > Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the > temperature get

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Grant
>> I have another dead power supply and/or another dead motherboard in my >> Gentoo router.  I've tried to make that system as silent as possible >> and I wonder if I'm paying the price.  How do you guys monitor system >> temperatures?  Is lm_sensors the way to go?  How do you keep an eye on >> the

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Nick Fortino
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said: It seems like you are reading the message correctly, but you are focusing on the wrong part. The problem here is gail, not gtk+. What should happen is gail-1000 is installed as part of this upgrade, and then the block is resolved. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said: > It seems like you are reading the message correctly, but you are focusing > on the wrong part. The problem here is gail, not gtk+. What should happen > is gail-1000 is installed as part of this upgrade, and then the block is > resolved. The output of "equery lis

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Nick Fortino
Michael P. Soulier wrote: So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Michael P. Soulier schrieb am 21.03.2009 22:17: So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ] de

[gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Michael P. Soulier
So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1 [2.16.6] [ebuild N] med

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread BRM
With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate to also mention the risk. On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to upgrade partitions every now and then and my previous solution was add another drive/partition and cross mount - e.g. like done with /us

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:39:08 +0100, Jarry wrote: > I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not > extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for, > if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before > extending... You can ex

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Troeder
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 19:39 +0100, Jarry wrote: > I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not > extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for, > if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before > extending... This is files

Re: [gentoo-user] rhythmbox is looking for an older shared object

2009-03-21 Thread dhk
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:44:04PM -0400, dhk wrote revdep-rebuild is flagging rhythmbox as requiring libtotem-plparser.so.10 . After the last upgrade all I have installed in /usr/lib64/ is libtotem-plparser.so.12 . Should I just make a link or do I need to install an older

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 21 March 2009 20:39:08 Jarry wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var > >> cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr > > > > Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: > > /usr/usr/ > > /var/var > > > > You want: > > cp -a /mnt/

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Jarry
Alan McKinnon wrote: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: /usr/usr/ /var/var You want: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/ cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/ Thanks f

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:12:56 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var > > cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr > > Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: > > /usr/usr/ > /var/var > > You want: > > cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/g

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:05:42 schrieb Jarry: > I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want > to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: > > /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty > /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly full (

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 21 March 2009 20:05:42 Jarry wrote: > Hi, > > I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want > to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: > > /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty > /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly f

[gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Jarry
Hi, I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly full (90%) And I have /backup on separate partition (hda1),

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems > down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the temperature get quite high. lm_sensors includes a daemon tha

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove qt-4.4.2

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Marc Blumentritt schrieb am 21.03.2009 14:33: > Hi, > > when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results: > > [...] These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > x11-libs/qt > selected: 4.4.2 >protected: none > omitted: 3.3.8b-r1 > > x11-libs/qt-assistant > selec

[gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove qt-4.4.2

2009-03-21 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Hi, when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results: [...] >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: x11-libs/qt selected: 4.4.2 protected: none omitted: 3.3.8b-r1 x11-libs/qt-assistant selected: 4.4.2-r1 protected: none omitted: none x11-libs/qt-xmlpat

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 21 Mar 2009, Dale wrote: > What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems > down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. I would think a > temperature sensor would be better myself. I !think! gkrellm can do > that. I'm sure there is a way to do it automatical

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:39:09 -0500 > Dale wrote: > > >> My personal favorite tho, smart fans. My CPU has a sensor under it and >> varies the CPU fan with temp. I have done the same with my case fans >> and it works pretty well. One spinning at a good rate is best tho

Re: [gentoo-user] start X at startup without a login manager

2009-03-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Sebastian Günther schrieb: > * Florian Philipp (li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net) [20.03.09 19:09]: >> fei huang schrieb: >>> I don't have any "xdm", "gdm" stuff but would like to start my windows >>> manager directly at startup, cause I'm the only one that use it. >>> >> You know that this is a possi