Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread Nick Rout
I have taken the liberty of emailing Holly directly to ask where she has got to, cos the guys are missing her. I'll let you know if she replies... On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:49:20 +0100 Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 22 August 2006 19:29, John J. Foster wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 06:29:27PM +0100, Uwe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2006.0 install

2006-08-22 Thread Martin S
2006/8/21, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Martin S gmail.com> writes:> I am having problems installing Gentoo 2006.0. The computer has partitions anddata I want to save.> Whenever I try to install (using the LiveCD) I get as far as entering > the root password but when the actual installation is about

Re: [gentoo-user] initng or runit?

2006-08-22 Thread Dale
Thomas Kear wrote: > > > I've never tried RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP, haven't used sysvinit at all in > 9 months. > I recently started using this "feature". It works OK. Nothing fails to start. It does try to start my networks too early but it seems to just wait until it is ready then starts them up j

Re: [gentoo-user] Practical log reviewing

2006-08-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:04 -0500, Troy Curtis Jr wrote: > Logwatch is really designed to be run as a cronjob which sends you an > email after it has parsed through your logs. The configuration for > logwatch is located in the /etc/log.d/ directory. In that directory > you will find many scripts

Re: [gentoo-user] Practical log reviewing

2006-08-22 Thread Troy Curtis Jr
Logwatch is really designed to be run as a cronjob which sends you an email after it has parsed through your logs. The configuration for logwatch is located in the /etc/log.d/ directory. In that directory you will find many scripts and configuration options for a wide range of different log file

Re: [gentoo-user] initng or runit?

2006-08-22 Thread Thomas Kear
I've never tried runit, but being an initng dev, I'm expected to be somewhat biased. Having just had a quick look at runit, it appears we have the larger collection of init scripts, however being simple bash scripts it could be expected that runit's are slightly easier to make. The real advantag

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer Setup

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doing an lpq gives the following lpq: error - no default destination available. tardis sean # Did you configure a printer in (I assume) cups? If so, what does "lpq -P " report? If you still need to setup a printer in cups, you should be able to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer Setup

2006-08-22 Thread sean
sean wrote: sean wrote: I am trying to get my locally attached printer to work, first time setup. Followed the instructions and so far nothing. I am using the default cups.conf setup, and have enabled the kernel support Device Drivers --> <*> Parallel port support <*> PC-style hardware

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer Setup

2006-08-22 Thread sean
sean wrote: I am trying to get my locally attached printer to work, first time setup. Followed the instructions and so far nothing. I am using the default cups.conf setup, and have enabled the kernel support Device Drivers --> <*> Parallel port support <*> PC-style hardware Device Driver

Re: [gentoo-user] initng or runit?

2006-08-22 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 21 August 2006 09:35, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:01:24 -0400 Jerry McBride > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would some kind soul save me a bit of research time? Which of the two > > alternative init schemes are faster, initng or runit? > > That most likely

Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to start /usr/bin/nifd: No such file or directory

2006-08-22 Thread Goran Dubajic
Thanks a lot Richard!!! I could not find in which package is nifd and net-misc/howl is the rith answer! Goran. On 21/08/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/20/06, Goran Dubajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/bin/nifd: No such file > or dir

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 23:50, Richard Fish wrote: > > Now I'm confused.. ;) Would pruning the old gcc before running emerge -e > > world break anything that's isn't a C++ app? > > Well, technically, no.  But considering that some python modules are > implemented in C++ and link against libstdc++

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I'm confused.. ;) Would pruning the old gcc before running emerge -e world break anything that's isn't a C++ app? Well, technically, no. But considering that some python modules are implemented in C++ and link against libstdc++ (whi

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 8/22/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Am I correct that the revdep-rebuild step is redundant if you don't >> need any >> > C++ apps for the next 48 hours (assuming the emerge -e world completes >>

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 23:04, Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/22/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am I correct that the revdep-rebuild step is redundant if you don't > > > need any C++ apps for the next 48 hours (assuming

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/22/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I correct that the revdep-rebuild step is redundant if you don't need any > C++ apps for the next 48 hours (assuming the emerge -e world completes > successfully)? Yep. Oh, except

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 21:30, Richard Fish wrote: > revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.6 > emerge --prune gcc > emerge -e world Am I correct that the revdep-rebuild step is redundant if you don't need any C++ apps for the next 48 hours (assuming the emerge -e world completes successfully)?

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Tuesday 22 August 2006 05:18, Richard Fish wrote: >>> I see the point in this. (AFAIK there is no way to break up "emerge -e >>> xy" into smaller pieces, something to do in several separated steps. >> Actually there is. You can find all packages not compiled with -Os

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problem of finding cdrom on a i965 board

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, wu yuntao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Intel pulled Ultra ATA out of the i965, they've got the JMircon controller handling the Ultra ATA instead of requirement a SATA optical drive. Here's the problem. It seems that Gentoo can't find the Ultra ATA CD-ROM handled by the JMicron contro

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, Adrian Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I am right, doesn't it mean that the whole "emerge -e system" step is pointless? Couldn't one just do "emerge -u gcc" and then "emerge -e world"? Or am I being stupid? You are talking about when upgrading to new versions of gcc (based on yo

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Dale
Adrian Frith wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 16:12 +0200, Alan Mckinnon wrote: > >> modify CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf >> emerge -e system >> emerge -s world >> >> This will rebuild your toolchain (gcc, glibc and friends) to use -O2 >> then rebuild the entire system, including the toolchain again, w

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 August 2006 19:29, John J. Foster wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 06:29:27PM +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > That is not right. Her last posting on my harddrive is dated 29th of > > March this year. > > You're right, my eyes are obviously deceiving me! Hehehe. ... and I always felt tempted to

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/22/06, Alan Mckinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your current compiler was built with -O3, and you want to rebuild the system using a compiler compiled as -O2, hence the 2 step process. *Sigh*. I am so tired of this completely wrong information showing up here. 1. It does not matter what

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Adrian Frith
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 16:12 +0200, Alan Mckinnon wrote: > modify CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf > emerge -e system > emerge -s world > > This will rebuild your toolchain (gcc, glibc and friends) to use -O2 > then rebuild the entire system, including the toolchain again, with -O2. > Your current compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 06:29:27PM +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: > That is not right. Her last posting on my harddrive is dated 29th of March > this year. You're right, my eyes are obviously deceiving me! -- In all the millions of years dinosaurs roamed this planet, did any of them feel the need to in

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 22 August 2006 17:46, John J. Foster wrote: > >> Anybody know whatever happened to Holly? She hasn't been around for >> about a year and a half, and I miss her rambling dissertations. >> > > That is not right. Her last posting on my harddrive is dated 29th of March >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 August 2006 17:46, John J. Foster wrote: > Anybody know whatever happened to Holly? She hasn't been around for > about a year and a half, and I miss her rambling dissertations. That is not right. Her last posting on my harddrive is dated 29th of March this year. Still, I was wondering as w

[gentoo-user] [OT] former regular contributor here

2006-08-22 Thread John J. Foster
Anybody know whatever happened to Holly? She hasn't been around for about a year and a half, and I miss her rambling dissertations. festus -- In all the millions of years dinosaurs roamed this planet, did any of them feel the need to invent, say, nuclear weapons? Mickeyz pgp8qQkDi8U5F

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Dale
Alan Mckinnon wrote: >> Now the question: >> >> Do I have to do "emerge -e --newuse world" on my system or what else >> would be needed? >> > > modify CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf > emerge -e system > emerge -s world > Why is he searching for a package with world in it? I think you meant to p

Re: [gentoo-user] Practical log reviewing

2006-08-22 Thread Grant
> Does anyone know of a practical way to review all the various logs on > the system each day? Does it just come down to a brisk scroll through > the previous day's rotated logs? > Isn't that why logwatch was created? I emerged logwatch, but even though the man pages reference the command 'log

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 05:18, Richard Fish wrote: > > I see the point in this. (AFAIK there is no way to break up "emerge -e > > xy" into smaller pieces, something to do in several separated steps. > > Actually there is.  You can find all packages not compiled with -Os > and rebuild them with so

[gentoo-user] NIS configuration

2006-08-22 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales
Hi! I configured my gentoo server box to authenticate users through LDAP (nsswicth+pam_ldap). Everything are working fine and now I want to run a ypserv and as a result I want the nis clients authenticating against my server. I following the instructions in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_NIS

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 04:28, Collins Richey wrote: > I'm just curious. The last time I participated in a -O2 vs. -Os > discussion was 1 -1/2 to 2 years ago. There were certain software > components (don't remember which) where -Os was contraindicated - > warnings against compiling them with -Os

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problem of finding cdrom on a i965 board

2006-08-22 Thread jarry
> As Intel pulled Ultra ATA out of the i965, really bloddy idea, imho, to abandon p-ata so early... > It seems that Gentoo can't find the > Ultra ATA CD-ROM handled by the JMicron controller during the > installation, doesn't it? And how should i deal with it? If I were you, I'd go and buy some

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 22:51 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I *don't* want to start some flamewar her, I am a newbie in this group, > and I just would like some info on how to do it right, as my extensive > rtfm'ing/googling/etc. has still not given me a satisfying answer. > > I started my Ge

Re: [gentoo-user] odd emerge problem

2006-08-22 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adrian wrote: > > Greetings all; > > Emerge is doing some odd things. Most of the time it works, but when > I > try to run > > emerge -pv world > > I get: > - > Mon Aug 21 19:47:13 > /usr/portage/distfiles/portage-snapshots

[gentoo-user] installation problem of finding cdrom on a i965 board

2006-08-22 Thread wu yuntao
As Intel pulled Ultra ATA out of the i965, they've got the JMircon controller handling the Ultra ATA instead of requirement a SATA optical drive. Here's the problem. It seems that Gentoo can't find the Ultra ATA CD-ROM handled by the JMicron controller during the installation, doesn't it? And how

Re: [gentoo-user] odd emerge problem

2006-08-22 Thread Adrian
You were so correct. Problem solved. I'll be checking the file system for corruption. Thanks so much. Adrian On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:45:22 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adrian wrote: > > root $ emerge --ask -v wo

[gentoo-user] centericq fails to comile

2006-08-22 Thread cristi
I'm using a ~amd64 arch and just wanted to install this console im(sounds interesting) but it keeps failing at : checking endianness... little configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: WARNING: Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting cd . &&

[gentoo-user] Re: inotify problem - SOLVED

2006-08-22 Thread Marco Costa
Marco Costa wrote: > Hi. > > I am trying to use inotify but something is not correct. > I am using gentoo 2006.0. > kernel: 2.6.17-gentoo-r4 > inotify is compiled in. > glibc 2.3.6-r4 > > What happens: > I initialize inotify, it returns the file descriptor (fd). OK > I add a directory to watch

[gentoo-user] How to create a LiveCD with madwifi and wpa_supplicant support?

2006-08-22 Thread Johan Tibell
I would like to create a custom LiveCD which is identical to the x86 2006.0 one but includes the latest madwifi (madwifi-ng?) and wpa_supplicant ebuilds so my WLAN works out-of-the-box when I boot using it. What would be the simplest way to achieve this? lspci reports that my WLAN card is a:

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED Problem booting after reinstall

2006-08-22 Thread Rafael Fernández López
There's no reason for vanilla-kernel working and gentoo-sources don't. The main reason is that: a) The filesystem in gentoo-sources you selected it as a module instead of built into the kernel, and in vanilla-kernel you did right or maybe it was selected. b) The IDE chipset driver or IDE har

[gentoo-user] Re: Practical log reviewing

2006-08-22 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-22 04:57] : > You say it is easy to install and so it is, But once installed it > isn't at all clear what this thing does. > > I'm guessing somewhere in all the hoopla it presents you with some > analysis of logs. > > Its not one bit clear fr

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Richard Fish schrieb: > On 8/21/06, Stefan G. Weichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Acer TM 634 >> P4-M 1.8GHz (cpu family : 15, model : 2) >> 512 MB RAM >> 30 GB 5200 rpm HDD > > It's all relative. I have a 2.1Ghz Core Duo with 2G of RAM and a > 160Gb HD, so *I* would consider your laptop, um

Re: [gentoo-user] How to properly change CFLAGS ?

2006-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Richard Fish schrieb: > On 8/21/06, Stefan G. Weichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Richard Fish schrieb: >> > or "emerge -e world" to complete. I would be tempted to just change >> > the flags and hold off on recompiling everything until the next >> > version of gcc comes out. >> >> ( ... "nex

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/conf.d/net

2006-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 10:13 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don't feel bad Alan - for me, also this is very unclear. I upgraded > baselayout > then got the message my conf.d/net was using deprecated syntax so I went to > net.example, copied it to net which is symlinked to net.eth0 (after backi

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED Problem booting after reinstall

2006-08-22 Thread frank
Hi, I solved the problem using the vanilla kernel. May be some devel reads this list. Here Is my (relevant configuration) CPU: Celeron M 00:00.0 Host bridge: SIS [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11) 00:02.1 SMBus: SIS [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller 00:02.5 IDE interface: SIS [SiS] 5513 [IDE]