Re: [gentoo-dev] Welcome Back, Cummings

2005-11-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Seemant Kulleen wrote: [Mike is back] Yai! Welcome, we really needed you back (beside that ruby is quite nice, *cough*) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-07 Thread Luca Barbato
t slowing me. For an errata site GuideXML or an _extended_ version of it could be useful. lu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDa5WH2QTTR4CNEQARAlERAKCeVue4ATD4fXBgLGdRAWt4Gi7vWgCcCs7R w/Pvjk9vv2C00HmrTkhBnHU= =Eiba -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Luca Bar

Re: [gentoo-dev] divx4linux sudden death

2005-11-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Frysinger wrote: can ffmpeg/xvid be used as drop-in replacements ? or do upstream peeps need to write completely new code to use ffmpeg/xvid ? -mike Given that almost every application has support for xvid and ffmpeg and divx4linux is a legacy in most case... -- Luca Barbato

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Luca Barbato
hould be a reasonable timeframe for the news to stay? Till the next gentoo release? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-10 Thread Luca Barbato
the upgrade occurs If they are delivered by portage they will be rsynced back to their original form. I guess that the news could be removed as we do for the ebuilds. (in this case about once the versions related to the news got removed more or less). lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread Luca Barbato
, they can go look it up on the web site. +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The infinity design makes us look like a bunch of ricers. Kill it! +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Luca Barbato
violet background. Move back the solid logo instead of the infinity one. That's all lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Luca Barbato
Ned Ludd wrote: [snip] It's great! Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux

2005-11-26 Thread Luca Barbato
Luca Barbato wrote: [snip] avifile will be removed tomorrow since mlt and mlt++ (required by jahshaka as avifile replacement) will be released tomorrow. If you are maintaining or using one of the packages in the list keep in mind that it will be removed in 24h if aren't avifile free.

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass mozconfig-2 restrictions

2005-12-04 Thread Luca Barbato
27;t work? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Luca Barbato
ny way to shoot your foot using a nice front-end to your transcoding tool of choice =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Luca Barbato
ood shape, if you can help us making sure dvdrip works fine with it we won't make transcode-0.6 bring it to the grave =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Luca Barbato
nsider the stability and scalability which are the most important characteristics by far. I'd suggest having a look at git or mercurial, they are tested on a quite big workload and they seems good enough for the task. svn so far was good but I don't know which big projects had it dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Doty wrote: "I live in Italy on the river of the lake of Como in a small country of less than 200 inhabitants. the Italian conspiracy taking place? who knows ^^ Welcome =) Have a lot of fun and beware of the rabid developer =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-11 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Anything involving XML. What about incidentally make the format yaml compatible? yaml.org /me runs lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-16 Thread Luca Barbato
in my eyes, and I'd really appreciate it being added to portage rather sooner than later. Just one remark: What about making the syntax a bit more familiar to C++ users: ~ DEPENDS="gentoo-foo::foo-bar/baz-2.1" Comments? what about DEPENDS="gentoo-foo/foo-bar/baz-2.1" l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning

2005-12-26 Thread Luca Barbato
quot;... I thought we cleaned up this mess... I didn't bitch enough to remove oggvorbis. please update your ebuilds... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-28 Thread Luca Barbato
fix all the tla shortcomings. btw, I played a bit with git recently and probably I'll give a try with mercurial soon and I couldn't find any annoying issues so far. To the people that are thinking that isn't necessary to go distributed, well, nothing is preventing us from using the same pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-29 Thread Luca Barbato
Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: Git, seems useful, but a bit hard to track ( I really dislike having to fibble around with long random characterstrings just to check out a certain version. I can deal, but still) cogito solves the issue more or less lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer

[gentoo-dev] h264/x264 global useflag

2006-01-02 Thread Luca Barbato
I'm thinking about adding an h264 useflag in the global scope, it will be used by an handful of media project in a relatively short time. Please tell me if you like the idea or not. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (news) Round Seven

2006-01-05 Thread Luca Barbato
Brian Harring wrote: +1 on this revision, although I demand a pony. +1, w/out pony. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-06 Thread Luca Barbato
I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) lu [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation [2] http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=f

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) lu [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implemen

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Stuart Herbert wrote: Which packages do you want to add the srvdir global USE flag for? fenice has support for it in at configure level, gentoo-webroot-default could enjoy it as well as apache may provide an alternate default too. lu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
course of action to me. NOT until use-based deps are in place, plzktnxbye!!! Don't break the damned realplayer thing again. Just add it as DEPEND and everybody would be fine, isn't it? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - new category dev-tos

2006-01-14 Thread Luca Barbato
peer an committed to the tree, but it's a lot easier to make a category early rather than moving stuff. Isn't it too specific? I'd rather spread them in the current categories. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2006-01-15 PPC meeting summary

2006-01-15 Thread Luca Barbato
Lars Weiler wrote: == 2. Dev Activity (Who's alive?) == Devs seemed to have vanished and even the operational manager isn't around strategic, not operational, I'm still alive ^^! (which had happened more often in the past -- probably there is a bane on this position).

Re: [gentoo-dev] My Resignation

2006-01-26 Thread Luca Barbato
g with all of you and regret having to resign. I hope to have you back once you'll get more free time ^^ Best wishes! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] beep-media-player removal: 04/03/2006

2006-02-23 Thread Luca Barbato
light players. Now, bmp is phased out, which is the gtk2 light player that could match it's deps and features best? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Alfredo Tupone (Tupone)

2006-03-12 Thread Luca Barbato
;re really going to form a conspiracy now :P > Update the devmap and start planning a meeting, given the season the best would be a bbq/grill in the country. Anybody has suggestions =) ? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Staffer: Christel Dahlskjaer

2006-03-13 Thread Luca Barbato
with the light on, falling > bookmarks, unbookmarked spots in a book, and playing the violin: > sometimes in that order. > ...oO(Doing them all at the same time would require too many arms...) Welcome Christel! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 20 March 2006 18:42, Roy Marples wrote: >> Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same? >> If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called >> resolvconf-0.1 > I would say gentoo-resolvconf as it's a r

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Stuart Herbert wrote: > Thanks for the summary. I think that's a fair assessment of where we are at. > > The offered software will be trac, svn, and moinmoin. I'm going to > look at darcs, and with the help of the haskell team and infra > determine if we can support it or not. No-one has expres

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Aron Griffis wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 05:16:57AM EST] Please consider git and mercurial proxies, maybe nobody proposed it yet but is relatively easy to provide it and it would be great since gives you most of the goods from darks w/out the pain related of building it

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
rcs : ghc mercurial : python git : c+bash (and optional perl/python for some merge scripts) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Danny van Dyk wrote: Congratulations Christian! :-) Danny Another perl monk joining! Welcome and beware of the rabid vapier! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Thomas Cort (tcort)

2006-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give Thomas a warm welcome if you haven't already done so :) Welcome Thomas! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-30 Thread Luca Barbato
them and send benchmark results. Mercurial should use a bit less disk and git should be a little faster and with better merge/conflict resolution features. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Disenchantment

2006-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
rs towards "what you don't know how to use XYZ, you must > not be very smart/leet/cool." the quiz is dumb and is structured to point some common situations in which you may not solve properly at the first try. I'm quite sad we have such different ideas about the quiz and why it

[gentoo-dev] [useflag] v4l2 : video4linux2 support

2006-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
] v4l2 (dev-libs/pwlib): Enable video4linux2 support [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mpeg4ip): Enable video4linux2 support for mp4live [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mplayer): Enables video4linux2 support [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/transcode): Enable video4linux2 support lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [useflag] v4l2 : video4linux2 support

2006-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:57:19PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: >> Currently we have already 5 applications supporting v4l2 (6 if I split >> the support in ffmpeg) > > Any reason why we can not use the existing 'v4l' use flag for version

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
a magical bugs whiteboard status or keyword that let a script know that > there's an ebuild to pull from bugzilla that should be added to the > there-be-dragons-here overlay, I'd think that would make life > much simpler for everybody. +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
pcd could be a better temp solution =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Frysinger wrote: > rather than moving to some sort of policy that satisfies no one completely > and > we'll have to back out of later, why dont we wait until portage can give us > proper support for USE=client/server > -mike +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profiles Part 2

2006-06-12 Thread Luca Barbato
ce that seems to have not > happened, I'm bringing it up anyway, since I would like to get > something done here. > > Comments? If you can spot those issues and fix them w/out rush on package mantainers, no problems at all. Just make sure nobody will ask to "fix" something wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen Bennett wrote: > This would be, in essence, a formal definition of the layout of the > tree, and the format of and assumptions made by every file contained > within it. I'm all for it. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Luca Barbato
ht, local time... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sharing portage?

2006-06-13 Thread Luca Barbato
Molle Bestefich wrote: > Hi > > Follow-up question to the backup thingy. > > Is there an easy way to share Portage's database between multiple > virtual machines? > unionfs is your friend =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.or

[gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Luca Barbato
flags and maybe send a notice about it upstream 2- append -fno-strict-aliasing to every source known to have such issue. I'll do 2 on all packages in the tree showing the issue if you think is ok, arches not yet affected will be in the future. lu [1]http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Luca Barbato
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:17, Luca Barbato wrote: >> Long term solution: > The best long term solution would have been to fix the code, but actually I > didn't ever found a quick explanation of how to fix this kind of code... >

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Luca Barbato
ugly code or just use -fno-strict-aliasing when needed. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] net-libs/xulrunner-1.9 slotting or not?

2008-03-15 Thread Luca Barbato
slotting it, p.mask xulrunner-1.9 and wait until all the packages work against it and then unmask. Given the number of applications I'd rather have them fixed with the patches pushed to respective upstreams if we got there first. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-15 Thread Luca Barbato
not do anything about that. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-16 Thread Luca Barbato
s to do that by ourselves. Might be i have ideas how to fix but I need to gain some experience with repoman before I present those. Thank you for your offer, I'm looking forward to heard back from you =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-16 Thread Luca Barbato
esn't work like that, our cvs must be stable, you have a relatively narrow window between syncs to the mirrors and if you make a mistake and don't fix it within that time, users will suffer. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] net-libs/xulrunner-1.9 slotting or not?

2008-03-17 Thread Luca Barbato
some are just nsplugins (and those shouldn't require a change) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New build types

2008-03-18 Thread Luca Barbato
n the first ;) I do not see any improvement per se. How do others feel about such an addition? I think it's pointless. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] PostgreSQL Status

2008-04-17 Thread Luca Barbato
efore. c) Slotting: It is now possible to have more than one major version of PostgreSQL installed and running on the same machine. Great =) d) A lot of other improvements, in detail, the following bugs will be fixed: Wonderful =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] PostgreSQL Status

2008-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: Tiziano Müller wrote: What do the new ebuilds offer: a) A split into dev-db/postgresql-{base,server,docs}. WRONG we aren't debian. It's bad, just because Debian does it ?! Sounds quite religions to me. I don&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.25 info

2008-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
time (that'll be May 8th) but this is of course subject to the state of affairs when we get that far :) Daniel People using ati-drivers (and possibly other external drivers) as usual do not upgrade if you aren't ready to help fixing the drivers. ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Counci

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PostgreSQL Status

2008-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Tiziano Müller wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: It gives an annoyance please reconsider. Done that. Won't change. See my answer to dberkholz's message. As long you keep a meta package, as you told in the reply I read just now, seems a good plan in the end. lu -- Luca Barbato Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Luca Barbato
I advise to start asking library upstreams to provide pkgconfig files (and/or push patches providing that). lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Luca Barbato
quot;batch" a few conversions so that each revdep-rebuild fixes multiple breakages in one. Call that an experiment, do not start screaming but just try to help a bit. I think we could have those change masked now and unmasked once we got something sorted better. lu -- Luca Barbato

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
EAPIs. Usually I rather see the specific problem before looking for solutions. If packages intertwine in strange ways _maybe_ we could work with upstream to fix the insanity at the source instead host it ourselves. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: cat/a-1: RDEPEND cat/b cat/b-1: RDEPEND cat/a This is solvable. If package managers can't solve this, they can't install Gnome off a stage 3... Which are the packages involved in such cycle? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-24 Thread Luca Barbato
n could be useful. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] DevRel policy update

2008-04-27 Thread Luca Barbato
st resort in order to protect it isn't that uncommon. Council was notified in advance of the written policy change and approved it. musikc never abused her position and I'm confident she won't in the future. On the other hand we got MANY complaints about your behavior lately.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: language bindings as separate packages

2008-05-02 Thread Luca Barbato
ir as well. Partial builds are quite a problem since they are anything but reliable. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automagic dependencies in gegl

2008-05-02 Thread Luca Barbato
m all as long as there are no patches? Let the automagic go in the tree? Opinions welcome. Where is the ebuild, put it as is hardmasked with a note about this, then we could work together on it. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automagic dependencies in gegl

2008-05-02 Thread Luca Barbato
Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: Hi, Now, gegl has 13 optional dependencies that could be use-flagged. The pity is, it has no configure-option for most of them, they are autodetected. A good example for miserable design ;-P That's why I everythin

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: qemu -> add gcc-3.x dependency

2008-05-06 Thread Luca Barbato
this ? that qemu is a sore exception, you should help upstream porting to gcc-4 if you have time, every people concerned should. Nowadays most of the work left to be done is _pretty_ boring and _pretty_ simple so everybody could help patching ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Memb

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Luca Barbato
) systems concern - lzma-utils depends on the C++ compiler and the libstdc++ beast, while a minimal system would like to avoid this at all cost. I'd rewrite the C++ code in plain C if isn't that complex... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.

Re: [gentoo-dev] am I ready to step into Gentoo?

2008-05-20 Thread Luca Barbato
knows if he'll work on bringing PureData to Gentoo too! Additional points if he makes coccinella work on non x86: - requires getting tile and treectl in portage - requires hacking a bit the coccinella sources lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC

Re: [gentoo-dev] FRC: debtools herd creation

2008-05-20 Thread Luca Barbato
ere: http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/pva/browser/dev-libs/lockdev/ I needed it as I wanted to try schroot but after some attempts (without much luck) and I've went with writing my own script to manage chroots. did you publish it? If works better than schroot maybe others could enjoy it ^

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
d it call their init functions, when a static object with a constructor can do the job just fine? Talk to the upstream about this, probably getting a satisfying solution isn't that difficult. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
tly a sane thing. lu - less excuses to laziness please. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
n move to having --as-needed as default. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
wrote most of the ELF spec...). Point the spec, and the paragraph violated. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I'd bet you could get a pretty long way by shoving -ffast-math into CFLAGS by default before anyone would notice... Non sequitur. We are talking about --as-needed, not -ffast-math. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:13:58 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know exactly which standard -ffast-math violates (IEEE/ISO floating point spec) and how (the man page is quite complete about this), --as-needed doesn't have any warning about this,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
good reason. As in "we have a square wheels, let's make routes for them"... Anyway is the book a standard? Is it available as pdf so you can point me the exact paragraph? lu - changing the world so non euclidean aberrations fit isn't sensible -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Cou

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
ing upstream to use pkg-config if they aren't already. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-31 Thread Luca Barbato
people is discussing with you since thinks, wrongly, that could be possible take something good from this discussion. The patch you pointed doesn't look complete nor acceptable to upstream as is, yet could help. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-31 Thread Luca Barbato
s uncommon since it isn't the simplest thing to do, doesn't work in every place, you have to be particular perverse and convoluted even to think about this. - making such thing go away is good for security, maintainability and sanity. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-02 Thread Luca Barbato
rter repoman and bugzilla integration to handle stabilization and keyword bugs automagically would be great but I think would require time (since such bugs could spare the dev some trips around bugzie) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Luca Barbato
, I accept. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Luca Barbato
festo is still valid =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
u fix them, discussing the changes with the people in -dev (NOT THE COUNCIL) or you may retract them. 3. Most wanted changes in future EAPIs Somebody is thinking the PMS and the EAPI definition as it is are wrong and should be replaced since they aren't useful for their purpose. lu -

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
how wrongly the PMS is written, e.g. academic paper markup vs plain text, natural language used to specify syntax while a grammar notation like EBNF would be better suited, when I asked people why so few were contributing about this document. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
anyone who thinks so bothered to provide details? - rewrite it as an rfc using a markup among xmlrfc, docbook, guidexml. - use EBNF when describing a syntax. - split it and version each functional part. - define EAPI as an aggregate of those versions in a separate part. lu -- Luca Barbato G

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:50:11 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So how, specifically, is PMS "wrongly written", and why hasn't anyone who thinks so bothered to provide details? - rewrite it as an rfc using a markup among xmlrfc, docb

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
t yours. Third, you should have a non-breaking space between 'see' and the reference. Pointless nit. How does "bunch o'neat code" deal with our code file containing things that XML considers to be reserved characters? That code probably has ampersands and angle brackets

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
* to read PMS in LaTeX, which by the way makes my eyes bleed somewhat, you can read it in a very well done PDF. The pdf renders poorly on xpdf due the fonts latex has, usually I'd rather have plain text anyway. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
better. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
filename tools now knowing EAPI-42 will either ignore the above foo-1.0.ebuild-42 or mask it because they may identify the EAPI-version without sourcing the ebuild. Check if exists a line EAPI=*$, if does and the rest of the string matches an understood eapi, go on sourcing, otherwise ignore/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
The simplest way is to change the syncpoint in the new package manager and leave the previous uri with a compatibility repo for the older ones. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
h the minimal eapi and the minimal set of ebuilds needed to upgrade, one with the latest and greatest. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Being that the case you'd just need 2 trees, managed as overlay and a marker for each tree on which eapi to use, but I dislike empty theories or hardly searched corner cases that could be avoided with half of the effort necessary to get there. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gen

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