Seemant Kulleen wrote:
[Mike is back]
Yai! Welcome, we really needed you back (beside that ruby is quite nice,
*cough*)
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t slowing me.
For an errata site GuideXML or an _extended_ version of it could be useful.
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
can ffmpeg/xvid be used as drop-in replacements ? or do upstream peeps need
to write completely new code to use ffmpeg/xvid ?
-mike
Given that almost every application has support for xvid and ffmpeg and
divx4linux is a legacy in most case...
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hould be a reasonable timeframe for the news to stay?
Till the next gentoo release?
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the upgrade occurs
If they are delivered by portage they will be rsynced back to their
original form. I guess that the news could be removed as we do for the
ebuilds. (in this case about once the versions related to the news got
removed more or less).
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, they can go look it up on the web
site.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
The infinity design makes us look like a bunch of ricers. Kill it!
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violet background.
Move back the solid logo instead of the infinity one.
That's all
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Ned Ludd wrote:
[snip]
It's great!
Make it a FEATURE default on for common profiles.
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Luca Barbato wrote:
[snip]
avifile will be removed tomorrow since mlt and mlt++ (required by
jahshaka as avifile replacement) will be released tomorrow.
If you are maintaining or using one of the packages in the list keep in
mind that it will be removed in 24h if aren't avifile free.
27;t work?
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ny way to shoot your foot using a nice front-end to
your transcoding tool of choice =)
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ood shape, if you can help us
making sure dvdrip works fine with it we won't make transcode-0.6 bring
it to the grave =)
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nsider the stability and
scalability which are the most important characteristics by far.
I'd suggest having a look at git or mercurial, they are tested on a
quite big workload and they seems good enough for the task.
svn so far was good but I don't know which big projects had it dep
Mike Doty wrote:
"I live in Italy on the river of the lake of Como in a small country of
less than 200 inhabitants.
the Italian conspiracy taking place?
who knows ^^
Welcome =)
Have a lot of fun and beware of the rabid developer =)
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
* Anything involving XML.
What about incidentally make the format yaml compatible?
yaml.org
/me runs
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in my
eyes, and I'd really appreciate it being added to portage rather sooner
than later.
Just one remark: What about making the syntax a bit more familiar to C++
users:
~ DEPENDS="gentoo-foo::foo-bar/baz-2.1"
Comments?
what about
DEPENDS="gentoo-foo/foo-bar/baz-2.1"
l
quot;... I thought we cleaned up this mess...
I didn't bitch enough to remove oggvorbis.
please update your ebuilds...
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fix all the tla shortcomings.
btw, I played a bit with git recently and probably I'll give a try with
mercurial soon and I couldn't find any annoying issues so far.
To the people that are thinking that isn't necessary to go distributed,
well, nothing is preventing us from using the same pa
Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
Git, seems useful, but a bit hard to track ( I really dislike having to
fibble around with long random characterstrings just to check out a
certain version. I can deal, but still)
cogito solves the issue more or less
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I'm thinking about adding an h264 useflag in the global scope, it will
be used by an handful of media project in a relatively short time.
Please tell me if you like the idea or not.
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Brian Harring wrote:
+1 on this revision, although I demand a pony.
+1, w/out pony.
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I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag.
Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it.
(fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it)
lu
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation
[2] http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=f
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag.
Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it.
(fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it)
lu
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implemen
Stuart Herbert wrote:
Which packages do you want to add the srvdir global USE flag for?
fenice has support for it in at configure level, gentoo-webroot-default
could enjoy it as well as apache may provide an alternate default too.
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course of action to me.
NOT until use-based deps are in place, plzktnxbye!!! Don't break the damned
realplayer thing again.
Just add it as DEPEND and everybody would be fine, isn't it?
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peer an committed to
the tree, but it's a lot easier to make a category early rather than
moving stuff.
Isn't it too specific? I'd rather spread them in the current categories.
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Lars Weiler wrote:
== 2. Dev Activity (Who's alive?) ==
Devs seemed to have vanished and even the operational manager isn't around
strategic, not operational, I'm still alive ^^!
(which had happened more often in the past -- probably there is a bane on this
position).
g with all of you and
regret having to resign.
I hope to have you back once you'll get more free time ^^
Best wishes!
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light players.
Now, bmp is phased out, which is the gtk2 light player that could match
it's deps and features best?
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;re really going to form a conspiracy now :P
>
Update the devmap and start planning a meeting, given the season the
best would be a bbq/grill in the country. Anybody has suggestions =) ?
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with the light on, falling
> bookmarks, unbookmarked spots in a book, and playing the violin:
> sometimes in that order.
>
...oO(Doing them all at the same time would require too many arms...)
Welcome Christel!
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Monday 20 March 2006 18:42, Roy Marples wrote:
>> Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same?
>> If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called
>> resolvconf-0.1
> I would say gentoo-resolvconf as it's a r
Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Thanks for the summary. I think that's a fair assessment of where we are at.
>
> The offered software will be trac, svn, and moinmoin. I'm going to
> look at darcs, and with the help of the haskell team and infra
> determine if we can support it or not. No-one has expres
Aron Griffis wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 05:16:57AM EST]
Please consider git and mercurial proxies, maybe nobody proposed it
yet but is relatively easy to provide it and it would be great since
gives you most of the goods from darks w/out the pain related of
building it
rcs : ghc
mercurial : python
git : c+bash (and optional perl/python for some merge scripts)
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Danny van Dyk wrote:
Congratulations Christian! :-)
Danny
Another perl monk joining!
Welcome and beware of the rabid vapier!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give Thomas a warm welcome if you haven't already done so :)
Welcome Thomas!
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them and
send benchmark results.
Mercurial should use a bit less disk and git should be a little faster
and with better merge/conflict resolution features.
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rs towards "what you don't know how to use XYZ, you must
> not be very smart/leet/cool."
the quiz is dumb and is structured to point some common situations in
which you may not solve properly at the first try.
I'm quite sad we have such different ideas about the quiz and why it
] v4l2 (dev-libs/pwlib):
Enable video4linux2 support
[+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mpeg4ip):
Enable video4linux2 support for mp4live
[+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mplayer):
Enables video4linux2 support
[+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/transcode):
Enable video4linux2 support
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Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:57:19PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
>> Currently we have already 5 applications supporting v4l2 (6 if I split
>> the support in ffmpeg)
>
> Any reason why we can not use the existing 'v4l' use flag for version
a magical bugs whiteboard status or keyword that let a script know that
> there's an ebuild to pull from bugzilla that should be added to the
> there-be-dragons-here overlay, I'd think that would make life
> much simpler for everybody.
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pcd could be a better temp solution =)
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> rather than moving to some sort of policy that satisfies no one completely
> and
> we'll have to back out of later, why dont we wait until portage can give us
> proper support for USE=client/server
> -mike
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ce that seems to have not
> happened, I'm bringing it up anyway, since I would like to get
> something done here.
>
> Comments?
If you can spot those issues and fix them w/out rush on package
mantainers, no problems at all.
Just make sure nobody will ask to "fix" something wo
Stephen Bennett wrote:
> This would be, in essence, a formal definition of the layout of the
> tree, and the format of and assumptions made by every file contained
> within it.
I'm all for it.
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ht, local time...
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Molle Bestefich wrote:
> Hi
>
> Follow-up question to the backup thingy.
>
> Is there an easy way to share Portage's database between multiple
> virtual machines?
>
unionfs is your friend =)
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flags and maybe send a notice about it upstream
2- append -fno-strict-aliasing to every source known to have such issue.
I'll do 2 on all packages in the tree showing the issue if you think is
ok, arches not yet affected will be in the future.
lu
[1]http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:17, Luca Barbato wrote:
>> Long term solution:
> The best long term solution would have been to fix the code, but actually I
> didn't ever found a quick explanation of how to fix this kind of code...
>
ugly code or just use
-fno-strict-aliasing when needed.
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slotting it, p.mask xulrunner-1.9 and
wait until all the packages work against it and then unmask.
Given the number of applications I'd rather have them fixed with the
patches pushed to respective upstreams if we got there first.
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not do anything about that.
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s
to do that by ourselves.
Might be i have ideas how to fix but I need to gain some experience with
repoman before I present those.
Thank you for your offer, I'm looking forward to heard back from you =)
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esn't work like that, our cvs must be stable, you have a relatively
narrow window between syncs to the mirrors and if you make a mistake and
don't fix it within that time, users will suffer.
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some are
just nsplugins (and those shouldn't require a change)
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n the first ;)
I do not see any improvement per se.
How do others feel about such an addition?
I think it's pointless.
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efore.
c) Slotting: It is now possible to have more than one major version of
PostgreSQL installed and running on the same machine.
Great =)
d) A lot of other improvements, in detail, the following bugs will be fixed:
Wonderful =)
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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Tiziano Müller wrote:
What do the new ebuilds offer:
a) A split into dev-db/postgresql-{base,server,docs}.
WRONG we aren't debian.
It's bad, just because Debian does it ?!
Sounds quite religions to me. I don&
time
(that'll be May 8th) but this is of course subject to the state of
affairs when we get that far :)
Daniel
People using ati-drivers (and possibly other external drivers) as usual
do not upgrade if you aren't ready to help fixing the drivers. ^^
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Tiziano Müller wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
It gives an annoyance please reconsider.
Done that. Won't change. See my answer to dberkholz's message.
As long you keep a meta package, as you told in the reply I read just
now, seems a good plan in the end.
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I advise to start asking library upstreams to provide
pkgconfig files (and/or push patches providing that).
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quot;batch" a few conversions so that each revdep-rebuild fixes multiple
breakages in one.
Call that an experiment, do not start screaming but just try to help a bit.
I think we could have those change masked now and unmasked once we got
something sorted better.
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Usually I rather see the specific problem before looking for solutions.
If packages intertwine in strange ways _maybe_ we could work with
upstream to fix the insanity at the source instead host it ourselves.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
cat/a-1: RDEPEND cat/b
cat/b-1: RDEPEND cat/a
This is solvable. If package managers can't solve this, they can't
install Gnome off a stage 3...
Which are the packages involved in such cycle?
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n could be useful.
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st resort in order to protect it isn't that
uncommon.
Council was notified in advance of the written policy change and
approved it.
musikc never abused her position and I'm confident she won't in the future.
On the other hand we got MANY complaints about your behavior lately.
ir as well.
Partial builds are quite a problem since they are anything but reliable.
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m all
as long as there are no patches? Let the automagic go in the tree? Opinions
welcome.
Where is the ebuild, put it as is hardmasked with a note about this,
then we could work together on it.
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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Hi,
Now, gegl has 13 optional dependencies that could be use-flagged. The pity
is, it has no configure-option for most of them, they are autodetected.
A good example for miserable design ;-P
That's why I everythin
this ?
that qemu is a sore exception, you should help upstream porting to gcc-4
if you have time, every people concerned should.
Nowadays most of the work left to be done is _pretty_ boring and
_pretty_ simple so everybody could help patching ^^
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) systems
concern - lzma-utils depends on the C++ compiler and the libstdc++
beast, while a minimal system would like to avoid this at all cost.
I'd rewrite the C++ code in plain C if isn't that complex...
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knows if he'll work on
bringing PureData to Gentoo too!
Additional points if he makes coccinella work on non x86:
- requires getting tile and treectl in portage
- requires hacking a bit the coccinella sources
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ere:
http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/pva/browser/dev-libs/lockdev/
I needed it as I wanted to try schroot but after some attempts (without
much luck) and I've went with writing my own script to manage chroots.
did you publish it?
If works better than schroot maybe others could enjoy it ^
d it call their init functions, when a static object with a
constructor can do the job just fine?
Talk to the upstream about this, probably getting a satisfying solution
isn't that difficult.
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tly a sane thing.
lu - less excuses to laziness please.
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n move to having
--as-needed as default.
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wrote most of the ELF spec...).
Point the spec, and the paragraph violated.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
I'd bet you could get a pretty long way by shoving -ffast-math into
CFLAGS by default before anyone would notice...
Non sequitur. We are talking about --as-needed, not -ffast-math.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:13:58 +0200
Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I know exactly which standard -ffast-math violates (IEEE/ISO floating
point spec) and how (the man page is quite complete about this),
--as-needed doesn't have any warning about this,
good reason.
As in "we have a square wheels, let's make routes for them"...
Anyway is the book a standard? Is it available as pdf so you can point
me the exact paragraph?
lu - changing the world so non euclidean aberrations fit isn't sensible
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people is discussing with you since thinks, wrongly, that
could be possible take something good from this discussion. The patch
you pointed doesn't look complete nor acceptable to upstream as is, yet
could help.
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http:
s uncommon since it isn't the simplest thing to do,
doesn't work in every place, you have to be particular perverse and
convoluted even to think about this.
- making such thing go away is good for security, maintainability and
sanity.
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rter repoman and bugzilla integration to handle
stabilization and keyword bugs automagically would be great but I think
would require time (since such bugs could spare the dev some trips
around bugzie)
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, I accept.
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festo is still valid =)
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u fix them, discussing the changes with the people in
-dev (NOT THE COUNCIL) or you may retract them.
3. Most wanted changes in future EAPIs
Somebody is thinking the PMS and the EAPI definition as it is are wrong
and should be replaced since they aren't useful for their purpose.
lu
-
how wrongly the PMS is written, e.g. academic paper markup vs
plain text, natural language used to specify syntax while a grammar
notation like EBNF would be better suited, when I asked people why so
few were contributing about this document.
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anyone
who thinks so bothered to provide details?
- rewrite it as an rfc using a markup among xmlrfc, docbook, guidexml.
- use EBNF when describing a syntax.
- split it and version each functional part.
- define EAPI as an aggregate of those versions in a separate part.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:50:11 +0200
Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So how, specifically, is PMS "wrongly written", and why hasn't
anyone who thinks so bothered to provide details?
- rewrite it as an rfc using a markup among xmlrfc, docb
t yours.
Third, you should have a non-breaking space between 'see' and the
reference.
Pointless nit.
How does "bunch o'neat code" deal with our code file containing things
that XML considers to be reserved characters? That code probably has
ampersands and angle brackets
* to read PMS in LaTeX,
which by the way makes my eyes bleed somewhat, you can read it in a very
well done PDF.
The pdf renders poorly on xpdf due the fonts latex has, usually I'd
rather have plain text anyway.
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better.
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filename tools now knowing EAPI-42 will either ignore
the above foo-1.0.ebuild-42 or mask it because they may identify the
EAPI-version without sourcing the ebuild.
Check if exists a line EAPI=*$, if does and the rest of the string
matches an understood eapi, go on sourcing, otherwise ignore/
The simplest way is to change the syncpoint in the new package manager
and leave the previous uri with a compatibility repo for the older ones.
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h the minimal eapi and the
minimal set of ebuilds needed to upgrade, one with the latest and greatest.
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Being that the case you'd just need 2 trees, managed as overlay and a
marker for each tree on which eapi to use, but I dislike empty theories
or hardly searched corner cases that could be avoided with half of the
effort necessary to get there.
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