Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Eray Aslan
On 2012-01-01 11:50 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > systemd/dracut/etc handles /usr on its own filesystem just fine. What is > required is that /usr must be mounted before the pivot_root away from > the initramfs. Nitpick: I don't think pivot_root is used anymore. It is basically unlink, mount, chroo

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:24:00 +0700 Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:59 AM, William Hubbs > wrote: > > Udev, kmod (which is a replacement for module-init-tools which will > > be needed by >=udev-176), systemd, and soon others, are advocating > > a major change to the location

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 03:21:47PM -0500, Olivier Crête wrote: > > But if people really want to focus on initramfs, I'd appreciate some > > documentation help on it. Not only on how to create one, but also why it is > > necessary, how to manage initramfs'es, the concepts underlying, etc. > > Short

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > And how does dracut know which files it needs to mount my /usr? I assume based on the selection of modules that you enabled when building/running it. I believe dracut builds static binaries, so it mainly needs updating when you build a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On 3 January 2012 01:58, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > And how does dracut know which files it needs to mount my /usr? > > I assume based on the selection of modules that you enabled when > building/running it. > > I believe dracut builds static

Re: [gentoo-dev] Six month major project on Gentoo

2012-01-02 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 12/19/11 7:14 PM, Sébastien Fabbro wrote: > One project that could be very useful for Gentoo is an automated > stabilization/testing for ebuilds. Obviously it will require some work > from the ebuild maintainers, but the ability to distribute the > stabilization recipes across a volunteering Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 05:39:39AM +, Duncan wrote: > Olivier Crête posted on Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:17:50 -0500 as excerpted: > > > On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:46 -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > >> I don't think the /{bin,sbin,lib} and /usr/sbin directories should be > >> deleted. > >> > >> However,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 07:58:00 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Sven Vermeulen > wrote: > > And how does dracut know which files it needs to mount my /usr? > > I assume based on the selection of modules that you enabled when > building/running it. > > I believe dracut b

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 01:24:00PM +0700, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:59 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > > Udev, kmod (which is a replacement for module-init-tools which will be > > needed > > by >=udev-176), systemd, and soon others, are advocating a major change > > to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 00:16:29 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 19:59:47 -0600 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > Udev, kmod (which is a replacement for module-init-tools which will > > be needed by >=udev-176), systemd, and soon others, are advocating > > a major change to the locations whe

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 06:54:34PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 19:59:47 -0600 > We should *at least* start doing some preparations, like ensuring that > random things don't unnecessarily hardcode /sbin or /bin paths. Most > importantly, if a particular tool runs in a complete e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:54:39 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 00:16:29 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 19:59:47 -0600 > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > Udev, kmod (which is a replacement for module-init-tools which > > > will be needed by >=udev-176), system

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:54:57 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > For a long-term view, 1) is the only way to go. Splitting packages > > randomly between rootfs and /usr was never really correct, and we > > especially shouldn't force users to junk their systems with > > shattered packages and cheap glue

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:39:57 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Sven Vermeulen > wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 07:59:47PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > >> The goal is to deprecate /bin, /lib, /sbin and /usr/sbin. My > >> understanding is that they want to move so

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:53:26 + Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 07:59:47PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > > The goal is to deprecate /bin, /lib, /sbin and /usr/sbin. My > > understanding is that they want to move software that is installed > > in /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin to /usr

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 07:37:41PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:54:57 -0600 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > For a long-term view, 1) is the only way to go. Splitting packages > > > randomly between rootfs and /usr was never really correct, and we > > > especially shouldn't fo

[gentoo-dev] Large ChangeLogs now split

2012-01-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hiya everyone, just for your information, as discussed and agreed some time ago [*], all ChangeLog files in gentoo-x86 have now been manually split following an algorithm similar to logrotate (size 100K, yearly). For details see the thread linked below. Cheers, Andreas [*] http://archives.g

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: ChangeLog transmission-2.41.ebuild

2012-01-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/02/2012 11:41 PM, Tomas Chvatal (scarabeus) wrote: scarabeus12/01/02 21:41:29 Modified: ChangeLog transmission-2.41.ebuild Log: Make it build on my system - add intltool/gettext to hard deps, fixes bug #379887. Reorder deps alphabetically. Depend on any ssl provid