Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Curtis Napier
Flammie Pirinen wrote: 2005-11-25, Curtis Napier sanoi, jotta: I honestly thought that the changes I made were better from an accessibility standpoint. I guess I was wrong. Not really. So on that note, I've gone over the design and gotten it closer to Aarons's reference. [...] Check out

Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On 11/25/05, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 25.11.2005, 0:58:28, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Petteno"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that> | we can make it a sort of rule).> | H

[gentoo-dev] last rites for dev-python/twisted-cvs

2005-11-25 Thread Marien Zwart
Hi, twisted-cvs is a live cvs ebuild that is completely useless since it is checking out a module that no longer exists (upstream switched to svn long ago). I plan to remove it next sunday (yes, that's less than the usual week, but the ebuild doesn't even finish src_unpack, so...). -- Marien.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread kang
Curtis Napier wrote: > gentoo.org and all domains owned by the Gentoo Foundation should > render correctly in all browsers that are still in general use. IE5 on > the mac is still a valid browser and will be supported as much as > possible. > IE5 for mac contains unfixed security issues which won'

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:14 +, kang wrote: > Now people can also use NCSA Mosaic. It's valid as long as you can run > it. But a browser with vulns, unsupported by the vendor, with a broken > CSS, I think you do not have to support it. Well of course, if you like > it just do it ;) Hmmm.. I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Grobian
On 25-11-2005 12:14:53 +, kang wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > > > gentoo.org and all domains owned by the Gentoo Foundation should > > render correctly in all browsers that are still in general use. IE5 on > > the mac is still a valid browser and will be supported as much as > > possible. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

2005-11-25 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 24 November 2005 22:42, lnxg33k wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that > > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop s

Re: [gentoo-dev] enewuser/enewgroup getting their own eclass

2005-11-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 19:34 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 08:54:41AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > > OK. I've been looking at some of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 14:49 -0600, lnxg33k wrote: > A few posts here have mentioned Catalyst and its respective documentation. I > remember tossing out some bugs about the docs and was told they were old and > being redone. A quick google seems to bring up some dated stuff. Anyway, are > those docs

[gentoo-dev] New perl eclass, perl-app.eclass (re: collision-protects in perl related installs)

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Cummings
[Background] The way perl modules are currently created using the perl-module eclass, man3 files are generated in duplication of the current pod docs. This leads to both a waste of disk space (anyone working with a perl module first thinks to perldoc it - not man it), and more importantly porta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread kang
Patrick Lauer wrote: >Some usability issues: >The top right textlinks are too dark and quite small. They aren't easily >readable and don't present themselves as clickable items (especially >with the dotted line below them they look like "random" text) > > Hm, the "don't present themselves as cli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:14:53PM +, kang wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > > > gentoo.org and all domains owned by the Gentoo Foundation should > > render correctly in all browsers that are still in general use. IE5 on > > the mac is still a valid browser and will be supported as much as > > p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread kang
Harald van Dijk wrote: >On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:14:53PM +, kang wrote: > > >>Curtis Napier wrote: >> >> >> >>>gentoo.org and all domains owned by the Gentoo Foundation should >>>render correctly in all browsers that are still in general use. IE5 on >>>the mac is still a valid browser a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 03:56:14PM +, kang wrote: > Harald van Dijk wrote: > >Even with its bugs, it's one of best browsers for MacOS 8.1, which I > >still use. But if you can suggest a better one, please do. > > > > > You might want to try iCab or opera. Well, I'd suggest you to run linux > o

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 22:51 +0100, Francesco R. wrote: > my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16 and for the > one will come with the dev-db/mysql-4.1.15-r1 ebuild I'm confused. MySQL 5 seems to have been available on ~amd64 for quite sometime. I've already converted my data

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Simon Stelling
Albert Hopkins wrote: Now all-of-the-sudden MySQL 5 is marked -amd64 so now I must downgrade. Is this intentional? read the changelog, it says: 24 Nov 2005; Jory A. Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mysql-5.0.15.ebuild, mysql-5.0.16-r3.ebuild: version 5 does not work on clean install -- Simon S

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Herbie Hopkins
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 17:32 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote: >version 5 does not work on clean install A very descriptive changelog... Any idea what "does not work" means? . Seems to work pretty well here. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Cummings
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). They're not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't get a USE flag. (not advocating a USE flag bug...) what about when the man pages are a duplication of the native documentation?

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 17:32 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote: > Albert Hopkins wrote: > > Now all-of-the-sudden MySQL 5 is marked -amd64 so now I must downgrade. > > Is this intentional? > > read the changelog, it says: > >24 Nov 2005; Jory A. Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mysql-5.0.15.ebuild, >my

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 25 November 2005 08:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Of course, if FEATURES were in the USE expand list, you could use > ! features_noman ? ( ) ... All the way up until FEATURES="noman" is changed to FEATURES="man"... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Albert Hopkins wrote: Is there a guide or something on how to downgrade from version 5 to 4? I'm assuming that I can't just point 4 to my database files and expect them to work. Also why did it take so long to determine that 5 does not work? I've been running 5 on amd64 systems since 21 October

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Francesco R.
Problem fixed, going to readd ~amd64 now, sync again in 30 min. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 10:51 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Or you can just unmask it locally and stop whining. I think users have a valid reason to be concerned about this, but if that is the developer's intention (to unmask it locally) then may I suggest this information be provided somehow to th

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 10:51 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Or you can just unmask it locally and stop whining. I think users have a valid reason to be concerned about this, but if that is the developer's intention (to unmask it locally) then may I suggest this information b

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 11:26 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > It's really not the best idea to be using ~arch on a box with > important data. > And if you are going to be running ~arch, you should really know what > it means > to do so and how to use it properly. I recommend reading >

[gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge =net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r10 will fail requesting for user action

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi all, I plan to release a new version of net-dialup/ppp that will add support for the pppd net module found in sys-apps/baselayout-/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11. This version, however, cannot work with the old /etc/init.d/net.ppp0, hence I plan to die in pkg_setup with following messages: * Followi

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:46:54PM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten??" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that > >| we can make it a sort of rule). > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Herbie Hopkins wrote: >On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 17:32 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote: > > >> version 5 does not work on clean install >> >> > >A very descriptive changelog... Any idea what "does not work" means? . >Seems to work pretty well here. > > same here. anyway, a " signature.asc Descr

Re: [gentoo-dev] enewuser/enewgroup getting their own eclass

2005-11-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 09:24:44AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 19:34 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 08:54:41AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52P

[gentoo-dev] Re: manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Duncan
Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:52:17 +0900: > All the way up until FEATURES="noman" is changed to FEATURES="man"... LOL! I knew a guy that had the /reverse/ of that operation done! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every non

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:43:23 -0500 Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). | > They're | > not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't | > get a USE flag. | | (not advocatin

[gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge =net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r10 will fail requesting for user action

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi all, I plan to release a new version of net-dialup/ppp that will add support for the pppd net module found in sys-apps/baselayout-/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11. This version, however, cannot work with the old /etc/init.d/net.ppp0, hence I plan to die in pkg_setup with following messages: * Followi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Ingo Bormuth
On 2005-11-25 15:46, kang wrote: > > This whole thing give me some idea. Now, it changes the design a bit and > probably no one will listen, but, what if thoses purple boxes where to > be replaced by the bottom link stuff ;) > The bottom links which are hard to see or notice (cause they're at th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Matti Bickel
Ingo Bormuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-11-25 15:46, kang wrote: > > > > This whole thing give me some idea. Now, it changes the design a bit and > > probably no one will listen, but, what if thoses purple boxes where to > > be replaced by the bottom link stuff ;) > > The bottom links

[gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-25 Thread R Hill
Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:39:43 -0600 > R Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> * if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. >> Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail >> under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests and > Manifests with the result of a short and mid-term larger portage tree > (in the long term the format will be phased out hopefully) or rather > wait

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 26 November 2005 11:12, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 > > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests and > > Manifests with the result of a short and mid-term larger portage tree > > (in the l

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-libs/luabind

2005-11-25 Thread Mark Loeser
If no one steps up to maintain it, luabind will be removed from the tree in 2 weeks. It has not had an upstream release since 2003 and is broken with newer versions of boost, >=1.32. Nothing in the tree deps on it, so there shouldn't be any problems with its removal. Thanks, Mark pgpG2gGPCKLN