Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Sunday 20 November 2005 01:26, Brian Harring wrote: > Would need the ability to maintain a blacklist of users to > auto-ignore (releng), and would need to pull from svn also (something > the current script doesn't handle afaik). AFAIR solar? had a small script for this. > Forums people, any t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:26:20PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: > * Drop the idea of giving the arch testers an email alias altogether works for me but i think makes the GLEP less meaningful > * Change @subdomain.gentoo.org to @gentoo.org. i'd be against this and i'm pretty sure others would be to

[gentoo-dev] Re: implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Duncan
Robin H. Johnson posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:44:41 -0800: > The 6x146GB is overkill for storage, unless you have some other plans > that I'm not aware of (I'm assuming RAID5 with a hot-spare, so 4x146GB > usable). 6x72GB might be more suitable for the budge

[gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree

2005-11-20 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the project, including: * Outstanding security bugs * Upstream homepage no longer available * No real releases in over a year 'www-apps/egroupware' is an activ

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Jakub Moc
20.11.2005, 12:10:35, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:26:20PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: >> * Drop the idea of giving the arch testers an email alias altogether > works for me but i think makes the GLEP less meaningful Unless we are able to move to some important things instea

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:26:28PM -0600, Brian Harring wrote: > Forums people, any thoughts/requirements? Currently there are approximately 10 mods/admins. In general it's possible for us to keep track of who of us is active or not. Those folks also have toucan access and _should_ update their

[gentoo-dev] Re: Request for changes to GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:07:37 +0100: > * Give those arch testers a temporary [EMAIL PROTECTED] and don't > mess with subdomains. That's a very interesting idea. Could it really be as simple as that? It should certainly eliminate any in

[gentoo-dev] webapp-config v1.50 added to the tree - testers wanted

2005-11-20 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, webapp-config v1.50 is now in the Portage tree, and needs wider testing. The package is currently masked. To unmask it, run the following command: echo '~app-admin/webapp-config-1.50' >> /etc/portage/package.unmask This version, developed by Gunnar Wrobel and Renat Lumpau, is a port to Py

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:08:14 + George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Adding on to that, the mud slinging and conspiracy theories in this | thread benefit no-one, especially those looking at Gentoo from the | outside in. I see more "Who Killed JR?" than "this is good/bad | because..." Pfff

Re: [gentoo-dev] webapp-config v1.50 added to the tree - testers wanted

2005-11-20 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 13:35 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > This version of webapp-config is as fast as Portage itself (or > faster, Sorry I cant help it. But is this some sort of joke? Using the words 'portage' and 'fast' in the same sentence somehow seems like an oxymoron. portage is _powerf

Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS-Server requirements (was: implementation details for GLEP 41)

2005-11-20 Thread Lares Moreau
The Specs giving were for the new dev box, not the projected CVS/SVN box. I think the wire got crossed somewhere along the way. -Lares On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 06:31 +0100, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/11/19 22:50 -0600]: > > Yeah, we defiantly could use a beefy new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Lares Moreau
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 04:29 -0700, Duncan wrote: > If the capacity is there, go RAID6 (dual parity RAID5, so two drives can > drop out without the thing dieing) with a hot-spare as well, so > threex146GB usable. Is RAID6 production ready? -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://

Re: [gentoo-dev] webapp-config v1.50 added to the tree - testers wanted

2005-11-20 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 09:18 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > Sorry I cant help it. But is this some sort of joke? > Using the words 'portage' and 'fast' in the same sentence > somehow seems like an oxymoron. portage is _powerful_ > but it's anything but fast. No, but it *is* a benchmark that everyone ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:49:11 -0700 Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 04:29 -0700, Duncan wrote: | > If the capacity is there, go RAID6 (dual parity RAID5, so two | > drives can drop out without the thing dieing) with a hot-spare as | > well, so threex146GB usable. | |

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Bryan �stergaard
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:26:28PM -0600, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:04:44PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: > > > The problem is in detection- an infra issue that could be solved by > > > either allowing normal devrel people to run the detection scripts > > > themselves (rather

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Albertson
Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:26:28PM -0600, Brian Harring wrote: > >>On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:04:44PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: >> The problem is in detection- an infra issue that could be solved by either allowing normal devrel people to run the detection script

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Bryan �stergaard
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 09:34:20AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > I think we've fixed some of those issues with solar's script. You just > need to look at the list and make your assumptions. The script is great > to spitting out a list that you can look it. Its not 100%, but its good > enough t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-20 Thread Corey Shields
On Sunday 20 November 2005 06:49 am, Lares Moreau wrote: > On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 04:29 -0700, Duncan wrote: > > If the capacity is there, go RAID6 (dual parity RAID5, so two drives can > > drop out without the thing dieing) with a hot-spare as well, so > > threex146GB usable. > > Is RAID6 productio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree

2005-11-20 Thread Jason Huebel
On Sunday 20 November 2005 5:38 am, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Hi, > > I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be > dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the > project, including: > > * Outstanding security bugs > * Upstream homepage no longer availa

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 16:43 +0100, Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 09:34:20AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > > > I think we've fixed some of those issues with solar's script. You just > > need to look at the list and make your assumptions. The script is great > > to spitting o

[gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Lisa Seelye
With bug 80219 a user posted a patch for OpenSLP support with Distcc based off of the 2.18.3-r7 ebuild. I can't seem to make it work so I'm going to ask the dev mail list to see if anyone else can test and make it work. Perhaps I simply lack the SLP knowledge. At this time the ebuild and patch a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 23:44 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > this, then I change my opinion on supporting this proposal, as I surely > > don't give a damn about some dev meet in the UK that I would never be > > able to attend and *definitely* don't want that *shoved* down my throat > > by the tree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree

2005-11-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Jason Huebel wrote: > On Sunday 20 November 2005 5:38 am, Stuart Herbert wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be >>dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the >>project, including: >> >>* Outstanding security bugs >>* Upstrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lisa Seelye wrote: | With bug 80219 a user posted a patch for OpenSLP support with Distcc | based off of the 2.18.3-r7 ebuild. I can't seem to make it work so I'm | going to ask the dev mail list to see if anyone else can test and make | it work. Pe

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 04:10:34PM +0100, Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > We should be able to handle forums staff the same way I currently check > bugs activity. Only requires ro access to the database and a small > script but this would obviously have to be discussed with infra and > forum leads. As st

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-20 Thread Michael Marineau
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:18:58AM -0800, Drake Wyrm wrote: > >>Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Well, I don't think so... If I want to enable a feature for one >>>specific ebuild and a USE flag in /etc/portage/package.use pulls in a >>>dep, that in turn enables t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:38 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lisa Seelye wrote: > | With bug 80219 a user posted a patch for OpenSLP support with Distcc > | based off of the 2.18.3-r7 ebuild. I can't seem to make it work so I'm > | going to ask t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-20 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 13:06 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Huh? > > I was using it as an example of something that I would not be interested > in seeing in *my* tree since I wouldn't ever be able to attend. What > did you think I meant by it. Did I at any point say that the UK dev > meets are

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
Personally, I do not think the tree is the place for anything besides that which relates to the tree. I really do not think users would appreciate there sync being burdoned by "Developer x broke his toe this week" ; "developer y is going to italy" ; "We recently recieved 3 new mirrors" and have al

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: > However changing this will also lead to many supprises and tick off many > users who don't know why a bunch of flags just vanished. How about we > leave the feature in portage but remove auto from USE_ORDER in the > 2006.0 profile and pu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lisa Seelye wrote: | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:38 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |>Out of curiosity, why isn't this patch just being sent upstream for |>incorporation there? | | | It is, but there hasn't been much work on Distcc this year. Our policy f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 20 November 2005 23:45, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Our policy for X is that if upstream won't accept it, we won't either. It might work for you but it's not always possible. Sometimes there are upstreams that simply does not accept things, or accepts them on a long timeframe. I used to p

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-20 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:23:19 +0100 "Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: > > > For users who do like the functionality just properly document > > the existance of USE_ORDER in the install guide. > > However, I'd -also- want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 14:45 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lisa Seelye wrote: > | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:38 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > |>Out of curiosity, why isn't this patch just being sent upstream for > |>incorporation there? > | > |

[gentoo-dev] Re: Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-20 Thread R Hill
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Our policy for X is that if upstream won't accept it, we won't either. > Perhaps you'd be interested in adopting that and convincing the reported > to get upstream interested? I remember trying that as an argument against the reiser4 patch for grub. Nobody seemed to agree

[gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-20 Thread R Hill
Daniel Ahlberg wrote: > * if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of the packages in this list so I'm interested in knowing what's worth fixing and w

[gentoo-dev] New Dev: Thunder

2005-11-20 Thread Brian Harring
Hola list, Damian Florczyk has joined the Alt project to help with the FBSD port, and NetBSD port he's been working on externally. He's 22. lives in Wroclaw (Breslau) PL, and is in his third year of CS. It goes without saying that now would be the time to unleash a few "BSD is dead" jokes (m

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Thunder

2005-11-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
BSD is dead jokes are dead. Lets move on to the next thing! Developers working on bsd are dead! SHortest development time ever thunder! oh, and who let ferringb write the intro's, needs more verbosity WHens Gentoo/Opensolaris coming? /me hides On 11/20/05, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

[gentoo-dev] New Dev: Jeroen Roovers aka JeR

2005-11-20 Thread Brian Harring
All- Jeroen Roovers, mentored by gmsoft, is joining up to help the HPPA crew. In his words, I have lived in the Nederlands all my life and still intend to change that. I am married and I have two children (now aged 5 and nearly 4). I enjoy music, reading and toying with all the computer syst

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Thunder

2005-11-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 04:40, Dan Meltzer wrote: > WHens Gentoo/Opensolaris coming? /me hides Not today at least :P -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgpWQmpvtXiDr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Thunder

2005-11-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 04:36, Brian Harring wrote: > Damian Florczyk has joined the Alt project to help with the FBSD port, > and NetBSD port he's been working on externally. Finally the first minion of my new management :P Brian, be faster next time, eh? ;) -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - ht

[gentoo-dev] the upcoming ppp ebuild need to remove files from /etc

2005-11-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi gang, The new ppp ebuild should erase /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 installed by previous versions of net-dialup/ppp. The upcoming sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11 will be able to handle any kind of PPP links. What would be the best way of doing this? signature.asc Descriptio

[gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Curtis Napier
This has been cross posted to gentoo-dev and www-redesign. http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org After receiving a ton of very useful feedback from the developer community I have updated the redesign. It should now be closer to 100% accessible and it should (hopefully) render perfectly in all browsers

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Jeroen Roovers aka JeR

2005-11-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:53:47 -0600 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: tx, Brian. This needs some patching after two months: > I have lived in the Nederlands all my life and still intend to change > that. I am married and I have two children (now aged 5 and nearly 4). s|nearly|| > I cur

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Aaron Kulbe
Curt, I'm on a Mac Mini. OS X 10.4, Safari v. 2.0.2 Looks good here. Cheers, Aaron Kulbe a.k.a. SuperLag On 11/21/05, Curtis Napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has been cross posted to gentoo-dev and www-redesign. > > http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org > > After receiving a ton of very usef

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Albertson
Curtis Napier wrote: > If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or > Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version > in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari > so feedback from those browsers would be much appreciated

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:21AM -0500, Curtis Napier wrote: > If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or > Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version > in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari > so feedback f

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Thunder

2005-11-20 Thread Damian Florczyk
Dan Meltzer napisał(a): BSD is dead jokes are dead. Lets move on to the next thing! Developers working on bsd are dead! SHortest development time ever thunder! oh, and who let ferringb write the intro's, needs more verbosity WHens Gentoo/Opensolaris coming? /me hides On 11/20/05, Brian Ha