On 20:46 Sun 13 Sep , Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:15:34 +0200
> Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> > Ryan Hill wrote:
> > > Personally I don't see how gaming the system helps us in any way.
> >
> > I was afraid it could be read in such a way. Handing out fake version
> > numbers would
Duncan wrote:
> Sebastian Pipping posted on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:00:03 +0200 as excerpted:
>
>> Duncan wrote:
>>> [L]et's get some context here. layman's no difficulty at all, really,
>>> when compared to the ordinary stuff we expect Gentoo users to do all
>>> the time.
>> I think you forget about
Alex Legler wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:08:38 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>
>> As has been said before, a lot of people don't go to the forums to see
>> the poll. I only go to the forums to search if I have a problem
>> before posting to the list. There may have been a dozen polls on the
>> foru
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:08:38 -0500, Dale wrote:
> As has been said before, a lot of people don't go to the forums to see
> the poll. I only go to the forums to search if I have a problem
> before posting to the list. There may have been a dozen polls on the
> forums and I would have no idea the
Alex Legler wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:25:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>
>> Where are these referrer logs? I don't recall ever doing one of
>> those.
>>
>>
>
> They are in the web server logs. Apache includes them in the "combined"
> log format, or you can add them in a custom log format
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:25:19 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> Where are these referrer logs? I don't recall ever doing one of
> those.
>
They are in the web server logs. Apache includes them in the "combined"
log format, or you can add them in a custom log format.
So cooperation with Infra is require
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>
>> Good question. How would a person know if distrowatch leads people to
>> Gentoo or not? It's not like there is really any way to find out.
>>
>
> - analysing referrer logs
> - doing polls
>
>
>
> sebastian
>
>
>
Where are these referrer logs
Duncan wrote:
> Agreed. Yes, overlays are perhaps a bit more trouble to setup than
> simply maintaining normal tree updates once setup. But let's get some
> context here. layman's no difficulty at all, really, when compared to
> the ordinary stuff we expect Gentoo users to do all the time. G
Dale wrote:
> Good question. How would a person know if distrowatch leads people to
> Gentoo or not? It's not like there is really any way to find out.
- analysing referrer logs
- doing polls
sebastian
Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:36 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
Seriously, I doubt that the average Gentoo user comes from
>> Distrowatch.
>>
Gentoo is born from a necessity which is very different from the
>> usual
>>
binary distro.
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:36 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> Seriously, I doubt that the average Gentoo user comes from
> Distrowatch.
> >> Gentoo is born from a necessity which is very different from the
> usual
> >> binary distro. Gentoo has never been about fame or marketing.
> - - I came here because
Duncan wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero posted on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:11:42 +0200 as excerpted:
>
>
>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:02:44 +0200, Sebastian Pipping
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Among other information the Gentoo page at DistroWatch [1] displays a
>>> table on about 200 selected packages [2] and how up
Ryan Hill wrote:
> Personally I don't see how gaming the system helps us in any way.
I was afraid it could be read in such a way. Handing out fake version
numbers would be much easier, wouldn't it? I want every single package
int he tree to be stable, up to date and polished. But as our resourc
That was neat :)
On 3/20/07, Robert Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Am 20.03.2007 um 09:35 schrieb Ioannis Aslanidis:
> What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda
> for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone
> with ideas on how to promote o
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Am 20.03.2007 um 09:35 schrieb Ioannis Aslanidis:
What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda
for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone
with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that
070319 Michael Krelin wrote:
someone wrote :
Seriously.
Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo on the right
I mistook "seriously" as relating to the rest of your letter
Your name suggests you're not a native speaker.
It's a common trick of stand-up comedians
to introduce t
I like that one! :)
On 3/20/07, Christian Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Emerge your life!
Join Gentoo!
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 10:59 +0100, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Join Gentoo NOW! We care!
>
> or
>
> I want YOU for Gentoo!
>
> On 3/20/07, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Join Gentoo NOW! We care!
or
I want YOU for Gentoo!
On 3/20/07, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Ioannis Aslanidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Anyone with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that
> kind of propaganda?
"Into S/M? Join Gentoo today!"
V-Li
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda
> for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone
> with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that kind of
> propaganda?
If nothing else, it does p
What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda
for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone
with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that kind of
propaganda?
On 3/20/07, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
070319 Michael Krelin wrote
070319 Michael Krelin wrote:
> someone wrote :
>> Seriously.
>> Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo on the right
> I mistook "seriously" as relating to the rest of your letter
Your name suggests you're not a native speaker.
It's a common trick of stand-up comedians
to introd
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote:
Seriously.
Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right
and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly
Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet!
Is that going to prove any
On 19/03/07, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote:
> > Seriously.
> >
> > Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right
> > and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly
> > Gentoo must
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote:
> > Seriously.
> >
> > Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right
> > and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly
> > Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet!
>
> Is t
Seriously.
Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right
and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly
Gentoo must be the most popular distribution on the planet!
Is that going to prove anything but Gentoo supporters infancy?
Love,
H
--
gentoo-d
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:28 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> > > Perhaps they're more
> > > interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
> >
> > or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
> > few ye
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> > Perhaps they're more
> > interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
>
> or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
> few years ago we were
those rankings are less significant/accurate than sl
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:40:54 +0100
Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ps. If someone wanted to start a gentoo-politics, by all means, go
ahead, just don't expect anyone to read it.
That's not such a bad idea, really. I don't mean creating -politics as
such
Warwick Bruce Chapman wrote:
There is a plethora of potential Gentoo developers out there and this
sort of press does nothing for getting them any closer to joining the
effort.
I consider myself a "potential Gentoo developer", although as I stated
in my first post I simply don't have the time.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:40:54 +0100
Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ps. If someone wanted to start a gentoo-politics, by all means, go
> ahead, just don't expect anyone to read it.
That's not such a bad idea, really. I don't mean creating -politics as
such, but the idea of separating o
Who cares about views? It is our distro and we just like to make it
better. Right?
There is a plethora of potential Gentoo developers out there and this
sort of press does nothing for getting them any closer to joining the
effort.
Secondly, regarding the DW article, surely if it was as
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> That's the exact opposite of my reading. The so-called mess in the
> last couple of weeks is nothing so unusual - happens every few months
> or so, and IMO it's more about steam venting than the specific
> issues at hand at the time. Responding
Caleb Cushing wrote:
Perhaps they're more
interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down
from a few years ago we were
7 in '04
9 '05
10 '06
11-12 '07
Yeah, the good old days when Gentoo was the
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Caleb Cushing schrieb:
> right now were 12 going up probably from all the sites saying negative
> things. funny sabayon a gentoo fork and overlay is in 8. I know these
> statistics aren't 100% accurate (given how they're generated) but maybe
> they
"Caleb Cushing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> right now were 12 going up probably from all the sites saying
> negative things. funny sabayon a gentoo fork and overlay is in 8. I
> know these statistics aren't 100% accurate (given how they're
> generated) but maybe they mean something.
Maybe part
Christian Faulhammer wrote:
"Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it.
Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are a dying distro.
V-Li
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 18:18 +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it.
>
> Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
> on Gentoo even more. From many comments I
Alexandre Buisse wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 20:56:51 +0100, Caleb Cushing wrote:
>
>>> Perhaps they're more
>>> interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
>>
>> or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
>> few years ago we were
>> 7 in '
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 20:56:51 +0100, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> > Perhaps they're more
> >interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
>
>
> or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
> few years ago we were
> 7 in '04
> 9 '05
> 10 '06
> 11-12 '
Perhaps they're more
interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
few years ago we were
7 in '04
9 '05
10 '06
11-12 '07
right now were 12 going up probably from all the sites saying negative
things.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:58 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of
> > it.
>
> Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
> on Gentoo even mo
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:38 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And something good is coming from it too. They are setting up rules
> so that this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
I believe the move towards creating the CoC was in the pipeline before
these outside events took place; it w
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:58 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are a dying distro.
Who cares about views? It is our distro
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:58 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
> on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are a dying distro.
Who cares about views? It is our distro and we just like to make it
b
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 19:10:06 +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > If someone were to publish an article saying "Embedded and arch
> > support is killing Gentoo by forcing all the development effort into
> > supporting minority platforms rather than t
On 14/03/07, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it.
Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:38 -0500 Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And something good is coming from it too.
Implementing policy based upon tabloid rantings is hardly 'something
good'...
If someone were to publish an article saying "Embedded and arch support
is killing Gentoo by forcing all the
Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>> So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it.
>>
>
> Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view
> on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are a dying dist
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