On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 10:48:18PM +0100, Grobian wrote:
> On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
> > 1) bzip2 them in some way.
> 4) compress Changelog entries where possible
Anyone gathered transfer stats for rsync without --whole-file?
compression won't pla
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:35 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
>> On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
>>> We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, > 25 MB totally .
>>> 1365 == 13% with size >= 4096 B, 12 MB totally
[...]
> be benificial. The only ques
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:29, Paweł Madej wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I still think the idea of simply RSYNC_EXCLUDEing the
> > ChangeLog by default would be a much better solution.
>
> I didn't know befor
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I'm sorry, but I still think the idea of simply RSYNC_EXCLUDEing the
ChangeLog by default would be a much better solution.
I didn't know before that it is possible, but after some reading man
rsync I've added *
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:35 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
> On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> > We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, > 25 MB totally .
> > 1365 == 13% with size >= 4096 B, 12 MB totally
> >
> > rsync from "emerge --sync" has "--whole-file" between i
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > I don't see a problem with removing version bump and stabilization
> > messages, but everything else should stay in the ChangeLog for as long
> > as the package is still around.
>
> See the part that I said "make sense to take out". Wha
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Lance Albertson wrote:
| See the part that I said "make sense to take out". What you described is
| a perfect example of something that needs to stay. All I'm getting at is
| that minor things that the package maintainer thinks isn't important to
| ke
Ok, last shoot, then let put this stuff to sleep.
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>>> I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
>>> don't want them instead of getting rid of
Ok then i suggest to add such input to Gentoo Manual that users not
interested in reading changelogs could mask them by rsync_excludes
*/*/ChangeLog
Greets
Pawel Madej
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On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, > 25 MB totally .
> 1365 == 13% with size >= 4096 B, 12 MB totally
>
> rsync from "emerge --sync" has "--whole-file" between its options, that
> mean transfer the whole file if changed.
> 2) "rota
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
>>>don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
>>
>>I don't think that's really a solution. That's just a way to mi
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
> > don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
>
> I don't think that's really a solution. That's just a way to minimize
> what they get. If
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:37:48PM +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
>
>>Do you read every time the whole ChangeLog ?
>>
>>If not, generally, how much of it ?
>
>
> I often find myself grepping through the entire ChangeLog too see when
> and who introduced a particular
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:37:48PM +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> Do you read every time the whole ChangeLog ?
>
> If not, generally, how much of it ?
I often find myself grepping through the entire ChangeLog too see when
and who introduced a particular change in an ebuild - but I normally
do th
Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matti Bickel wrote:
> > Pawe?? Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
> >> rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
> >> go to packages.gentoo.org and read i
Matti Bickel wrote:
> Pawe?? Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
>> rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
>> go to packages.gentoo.org and read it. As i got Gentoo for about 10
>> months I don't rem
Pawe?? Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
> rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
> go to packages.gentoo.org and read it. As i got Gentoo for about 10
> months I don't remember if I read Changelog
Francesco Riosa wrote:
yes but this excludes totally the ChangeLogs. Having the latest changes
handy may be useful.
Simply trying to equilibrate benefits and disadvantages,
for desktop user that care on changelogs only when emerge fail
and the network administrator that has a local rsync mirror
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a
> | centralized one is obviously not viable)
>
> 5) Anyone who really cares can use the excludes list, and check the
> Cha
Grobian wrote:
> On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
>> The information contained in the ChangeLogs is essential, and it must be
>> kept, but, force the users to download all that data it's not optimal.
>>
>> That said I can see only two ways to reduce the C
Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100
> Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thoughts ? It's doable in some way ?
>
> Whatever way will get chosen, a full copy of every ChangeLog should be made
> available somewhere (somewhere other than CVS Attic), for future refer
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:55:19 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a
> | centralized one is obviously not viable)
>
> 5) Anyone who real
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100
Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thoughts ? It's doable in some way ?
Whatever way will get chosen, a full copy of every ChangeLog should be made
available somewhere (somewhere other than CVS Attic), for future reference.
Kind regards,
--
Andrej "T
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a
| centralized one is obviously not viable)
5) Anyone who really cares can use the excludes list, and check the
ChangeLogs on the web when they need the
On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
> The information contained in the ChangeLogs is essential, and it must be
> kept, but, force the users to download all that data it's not optimal.
>
> That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a
>
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