Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 21:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:03:13 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > > If you read it again you'll notice the {pre,post} part ;) > > IIRC that's already in HEAD for /etc/portage/bashrc, so extending > > it to $PORTDIR shouldn't b

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 > > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot > > > of the ebuild funct

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot > > of the ebuild functions contained within portage will be moving > > into the tree once

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURES are not a > > > guaranteed part of an ebuild's "shell". Let me

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummin

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:24:54 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings > | > > | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > | (not directed at

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 03:29 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 21:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Doesn't solve the SRC_URI problem. > > Point taken. Doesn't help that this expansion stuff is fugly, imho. it is a bit on the fugly side but afaict, it's the best we got atm

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 21:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Doesn't solve the SRC_URI problem. Point taken. Doesn't help that this expansion stuff is fugly, imho. Carsten pgpf2HCETwZ68.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:42 +0200 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Uh, the way I suggested needs no portage changes. | | My bad. I don't like the feature flag approach and would say a | TDEPEND would be in order. Doesn't solve the SRC_URI problem. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 20:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Check the cache instead. My cache doesn't include the whole cvs tree, but I don't see what should be different. > Uh, the way I suggested needs no portage changes. My bad. I don't like the feature flag approach and would say a TDEPEND

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:25:10 +0200 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > You didn't count very well... And you're only picking up the ones | | Don't know what should be wrong with | | find . -iname "*\.ebuild" -exec grep -H IUSE

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:25 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > that're using USE=test, not the ones that have unlisted test > > dependencies, forced optional dependencies or tests disabled to avoid > > the dep. > > I answered Diego. You p

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > You didn't count very well... And you're only picking up the ones Don't know what should be wrong with find . -iname "*\.ebuild" -exec grep -H IUSE {} \; | grep test > that're using USE=test, not the ones that have unlisted test > depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:13 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > oh, you mean like portage ? > > Eh? Of course in $D, not global. I see no reason for "noman" being feature > flag. Don't care about it though. i mean your suggestion of adding

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: > oh, you mean like portage ? Eh? Of course in $D, not global. I see no reason for "noman" being feature flag. Don't care about it though. Carsten pgpDy0C18phXB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:07:31 +0200 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:19, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: | > Just look at how much packages there are which has a "test" useflag | > to add dependencies. There are quite a few. | | I counted 7 - seven - packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > sorry, but there's no chance in hell i'm gonna hardcode the dejagnu dependency Phew! Glad to hear that :) ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd signature.asc Description: Thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 01:07 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:19, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > Just look at how much packages there are which has a "test" useflag to > > add dependencies. There are quite a few. > > I counted 7 - seven - packages and toolchain-

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:19, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Just look at how much packages there are which has a "test" useflag to add > dependencies. There are quite a few. I counted 7 - seven - packages and toolchain-binutils.eclass. That's not even a thousandth part of the tree. Come

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:06, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and what > dependencies are in question, which are usually not available on every box > anyways? Just look at how much packages there are which has a "test" useflag to add depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:06:30 +0200 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 17:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > Then please introduce TESTDEPEND, MANDEPEND and INFODEPEND instead. | | TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and | what dependencies

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 17:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Then please introduce TESTDEPEND, MANDEPEND and INFODEPEND instead. TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and what dependencies are in question, which are usually not available on every box anyways? This getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/08/2005-17:14:59(+0200): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 15:16, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > in that case we're screwed because there are plans to make people use > > INSTALL_MASK and drop the FEATURES no{man,doc,info} > The problem is that noman and noinfo do

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox > > | to reply :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Simon Stelling
Jason Stubbs wrote: Personally, I think adding FEATURES to USE_EXPAND is terrible. Portage features are not ebuild features. How much do you like C code that has #ifdef's for the compiler being used? It's the same thing. what wrong with #ifdef __cplusplus__? ;) -- Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:24:54 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings | > | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox |

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox > | to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the > | installation, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 15:16, Mike Frysinger wrote: > in that case we're screwed because there are plans to make people use > INSTALL_MASK and drop the FEATURES no{man,doc,info} The problem is that noman and noinfo doesn't just avoid installing man pages and info cru^Wstuff, they also avoid m

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:19 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox > | to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the > | installation,

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 15:10, Michael Cummings wrote: > That's great and all that its in features for the > installation, but what about packages with optional dependencies based > on doc and man? Well there was a request time ago to add FEATURES (or at least a subset of them) to USE_EXPAND s

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox | to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the | installation, but what about packages with optional dependencies based | on doc and ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:10 am, Michael Cummings wrote: > (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox > to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the > installation, but what about packages with optional dependencies based > on doc and man? in that case

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Michael Cummings
(not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the installation, but what about packages with optional dependencies based on doc and man? On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:20:04 +0100 Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FEATU

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 14:09, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: > I have been thinking about this for the past few days, and haven't > been able to come up with an answer to why there isn't a "man" USE > flag for people to enable man pages getting installed. FEATURES="noman" disable man page insta

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Daniel Drake
Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: Hey everybody. I have been thinking about this for the past few days, and haven't been able to come up with an answer to why there isn't a "man" USE flag for people to enable man pages getting installed. FEATURES="noman" ? Daniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jakub Moc
10.8.2005, 14:09:46, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: > Not everybody needs the man pages, but installing them as default is > good, but currently, there is no way to deselect them. > What do you think? I think you should read 'man make.conf' (FEATURES="noman nodoc noinfo") ;p -- Best regards,

[gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey everybody. I have been thinking about this for the past few days, and haven't been able to come up with an answer to why there isn't a "man" USE flag for people to enable man pages getting installed. My idea is to make a global use flag, that are