Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 18:35 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 05:10:28PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > If the latter: hump the baselayout team. > > > > What does baselayout have to do with this? > > They're to blame for about everything. That's ok, we have thick skin.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-12 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 05:10:28PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > If the latter: hump the baselayout team. > > What does baselayout have to do with this? They're to blame for about everything. Nah, my bad. Of course I meant those responsible for the profiles. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Goodyear wrote: | Um, sort of? The council exists mainly to make cross-project decisions. | I suppose that this issue counts, since it involves both the baselayout | folks and the GDP, but the GDP doesn't really care which logger is | installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Tue Oct 11 2005, 04:10:28PM CDT] > I think the point is that they should match. It was also quite obvious > after the comments on the thread, that this is one of those things that > probably won't ever be solved by consensus. Is this not the exact thing > that the Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 17:54 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > That gave me a good laugh. Oh well, anyway. What's "default"? As in > "recommended by the documentation"? Or "installed as dependency of > virtual/logger"? The documentation recommends syslog-ng, as that was requested by Release Engineerin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 17:54 Sven Vermeulen wrote: > That gave me a good laugh. Oh well, anyway. What's "default"? As in > "recommended by the documentation"? Or "installed as dependency of > virtual/logger"? Both of that should be equal, but they aren't, see another -dev ML thread. Cheers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:00:57AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > I'd like to see the council fight it out over^W^W^W^Wdiscuss which > logger should be the default. *lol* That gave me a good laugh. Oh well, anyway. What's "default"? As in "recommended by the documentation"? Or "installed as dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 12:32 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:47:08 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or > | whatever it would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due > | to the constant flames

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:47:08 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or | whatever it would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due | to the constant flames... The problem is that no-one has put together a proper specific

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Jakub Moc wrote: 11.10.2005, 10:52:35, Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 10:47 Jakub Moc wrote: Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or whatever it would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due to the constant flames... Nothing, of course.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 10:55 Jakub Moc wrote: > Hint: read-only ml? :=) And who will submit the news? Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth pgpiIonAFZ408.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jakub Moc
11.10.2005, 10:52:35, Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 10:47 Jakub Moc wrote: >> Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or whatever it >> would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due to the constant >> flames... > Nothing, of course. But how wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 10:47 Jakub Moc wrote: > Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or whatever it > would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due to the constant > flames... Nothing, of course. But how would you prevent flames from happening on a new li

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jakub Moc
11.10.2005, 10:39:56, Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Monday 10 of October 2005 23:36 Marcin Kryczek wrote: >> council could decide if it's worth to try and put some herd (GDP?) to be >> responsible for it. > Uh, and what *exactly* do you mean by "be responsible for it"? I mean, are we > supposed to wat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:36:36 +0200 Marcin Kryczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | someone (sorry - but i can't remind who exactly and i can't find that > | mail) mentiond it'd be nice to have some ~weekly summary of important > | (for developers) decisions made in commu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday 10 of October 2005 23:36 Marcin Kryczek wrote: > council could decide if it's worth to try and put some herd (GDP?) to be > responsible for it. Uh, and what *exactly* do you mean by "be responsible for it"? I mean, are we supposed to watch every possible communication channel or would t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 05:40:37PM CDT] > I see the number of objections raised regarding GLEP 40 as a sign that > it needs rewriting, not a sign that it should be pushed to voting... > Perhaps making everyone happy is impossible, but equally there > shouldn't be huge amounts of un

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:22:07 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 04:43:19PM CDT] | > Isn't the idea that someone writes out a draft GLEP and gets it | > discussed on -dev (and repeats said process until everyone is happy | > with the GLEP) *bef

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 05:22:07PM CDT] > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 04:43:19PM CDT] > > Isn't the idea that someone writes out a draft GLEP and gets it > > discussed on -dev (and repeats said process until everyone is happy > > with the GLEP) *before* pushing things t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 04:43:19PM CDT] > Isn't the idea that someone writes out a draft GLEP and gets it > discussed on -dev (and repeats said process until everyone is happy > with the GLEP) *before* pushing things to the council? I disagree, but only very slightly. I never exp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:36:36 +0200 Marcin Kryczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | someone (sorry - but i can't remind who exactly and i can't find that | mail) mentiond it'd be nice to have some ~weekly summary of important | (for developers) decisions made in community. | i think it's good idea, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Marcin Kryczek
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:33:45PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Reminder: > > Next council meeting is scheduled for this Thursday. Deadline to submit > discussion items and/or GLEPs is set to Tuesday, October 11th, 1900 UTC. > someone (sorry - but i can't remind who exactly and i can't find tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 08:00:57AM CDT] > I'd like to see the council fight it out over^W^W^W^Wdiscuss which > logger should be the default. Gads, what a horrible idea (in my opinion, anyway). Surely we can come to some sort of decision on this issue without involving the council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 14:33 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Reminder: > > Next council meeting is scheduled for this Thursday. Deadline to submit > discussion items and/or GLEPs is set to Tuesday, October 11th, 1900 UTC. I'd like to see the council fight it out over^W^W^W^Wdiscuss which logger sho

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Reminder: Next council meeting is scheduled for this Thursday. Deadline to submit discussion items and/or GLEPs is set to Tuesday, October 11th, 1900 UTC. -- Thierry Carrez (Koon) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list