On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 08:51 -0700, Brian Harring wrote:
> Every few months is a rough rate going by memory at 8:30am. Not huge,
> but as said, if need to provide access to gpl'd sources for bin (not
> just releng cds btw, people are forgetting we have precompiled pkgs in
> the tree also), it _i
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 13:04 -0400, Curtis Napier wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:00 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > Anyway, I really am starting to like the DVD available via the store
> > idea more and more, as it only means Release Engineering
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Jakub Moc wrote:
> Curtis Napier wrote:
>> If it's decided to go with this idea I think we should mark it up
>> a little, even if it's only a dollar or two. People actually
>> don't mind paying a little if it's going to go towards helping
>> Gentoo. We
Jakub Moc wrote:
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3. b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
years, to give any third party, for a charge >>> no more than your
cost of physically performing source distribution <<<, a complete
machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to b
Curtis Napier wrote:
> If it's decided to go with this idea I think we should mark it up a little,
> even if it's only a dollar or two. People actually don't mind paying a
> little if it's going to go towards helping Gentoo. We get tons of
> threads asking about donating in the forums so this would
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:00 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[snip]
>
> Anyway, I really am starting to like the DVD available via the store
> idea more and more, as it only means Release Engineering needs to do a
> little extra work, and it requires no extra work for our
Brian Harring wrote:
> That said, y'all _should_ have a fairly vanilla base configuration
> across all servers (base kernel config, firewalling, grsec config,
> etc). Further, y'all were running lighttpd last I knew- so y'all
> should be tracking it for securities concerns already... and this
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:04:08AM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
>
> >> don't see why we need to have a public system setup as long as we can
> >> provide the source when asked. As far as a I know, the GPL doesn't
> >> dicate that we have to provide the sources in an interne
Brian Harring wrote:
>> don't see why we need to have a public system setup as long as we can
>> provide the source when asked. As far as a I know, the GPL doesn't
>> dicate that we have to provide the sources in an internet media form.
>> They just need to be available when requested. Perhaps we
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> Anyway, I really am starting to like the DVD available via the store
> idea more and more, as it only means Release Engineering needs to do a
> little extra work, and it requires no extra work for our mirrors or
> Infrastructure team.
>
The source DVD sounds like a gr
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:38:42AM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:00:29AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:34 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote:
> >>> Patrick McLean schrieb:
> I have absolutely zero experience with catal
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 15:59 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> It would be enough, regularily burning not yet archived tarballs
> on an CD and collecting them in some box where they can be catched
> if someone requests it. This should be done by several people, so
> in case of disk errors, fire, dead,
* Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> We can simply burn them all to a DVD and put an offer on the CD on how
> to get the sources, then distribute it for the cost of the DVD/shipping.
> Another idea would be to put the CD/DVD/whatever on the store, with 0
> mark-up. That would mean we
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:00 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:34 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > Patrick McLean schrieb:
> > > I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
> > > to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just
>
Brian Harring wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:00:29AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:34 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote:
>>> Patrick McLean schrieb:
I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
to create a source CD ISO when it is gene
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 22:31 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> Incidentally, the sources don't have to be on all the mirrors,
> assuming that's a problem at all. We could supply just one source server
> and rate-limit it; after all over the long term very few people will
> actually need to retrieve sou
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 14:15 -0600, Nick Devito wrote:
> It wouldn't be a hard task to accomplish (to put the sources on the
> mirrors), since *most* of the source is already on the mirrors in some
> form or another. We could make an option when downloading the livecd to
> either download ones with
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:00:29AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:34 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > Patrick McLean schrieb:
> > > I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
> > > to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one?
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 15:43 -0400, Patrick McLean wrote:
> No it's not a trivial amount, but it's also important that we comply
> with the licenses of the software that we distribute. I think that
> storing a gig or two extra on the mirrors (or more on the mirrors that
> archive /historical) is fai
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:34 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote:
> Patrick McLean schrieb:
> > I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
> > to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just
> > make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO, and keep the s
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:59 -0400, Patrick McLean wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 11:12 +, Duncan wrote:
> >>> For example, if we hand out CDs at conventions etc, we would have to
> >>> also hand out source CDs.
> >
> >> As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still
Nick Devito wrote:
> It wouldn't be a hard task to accomplish (to put the sources on the
> mirrors), since *most* of the source is already on the mirrors in some
> form or another. We could make an option when downloading the livecd to
> either download ones with the sources included, or without, a
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:34:01 +0300
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick McLean schrieb:
> > I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be
> > made to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary
> > one? Just make a cd with all the distfiles used in th
It wouldn't be a hard task to accomplish (to put the sources on the
mirrors), since *most* of the source is already on the mirrors in some
form or another. We could make an option when downloading the livecd to
either download ones with the sources included, or without, and, include
links to downlo
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Marius Mauch wrote:
> Patrick McLean schrieb:
>> I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
>> to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just
>> make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO, and k
* Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Hi,
> As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still have it better than most, in
> that the LiveCDs contain relatively few binaries, and they tend to be
> relatively core packages to which sources should still be available even
> for historic releases, shoul
Patrick McLean schrieb:
I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made
to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just
make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO, and keep the source
ISO with the binary one in /historical.
Creating an ISO isn
It would *probably* be easier to take the /usr/portage/distfiles
directory and pop that on a CD, or, have the option of putting those
files in a directory on the livecd. It shouldn't be too hard to do,
however, it would take up more space on the CD.
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:59 -0400, Patrick McLea
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 11:12 +, Duncan wrote:
>>> For example, if we hand out CDs at conventions etc, we would have to
>>> also hand out source CDs.
>
>> As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still have it better than most, in
>> that the LiveCDs contain relatively f
On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 11:12 +, Duncan wrote:
> > For example, if we hand out CDs at conventions etc, we would have to
> > also hand out source CDs.
> As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still have it better than most, in
> that the LiveCDs contain relatively few binaries, and they tend to
"Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat,
01 Jul 2006 11:14:37 +0200:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:53:42 + (UTC)
> "Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
>> > a) Accompany it with the complete corresp
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