Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-22 Thread Tim Harder
On 2015-07-18 15:01, Matthew Marchese wrote: > I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to > hearing from you. On another semi-related note, I've always thought it would be useful to extend repos.conf support to handle binary repos so one could use layman or equivalent to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:52:07 +0400 Jason Zaman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Maybe a bit off-topic, but occasionally I need a tool to "fast > > install Gentoo and fine-tune it later". This happens quite often on > > a new job box, oh during visi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Jason Zaman
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 > > Matthew Marchese napisał(a): > > > > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. > > > I've been able

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 > Matthew Marchese napisał(a): > > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. > > I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC > > concerning my plans

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20.07.2015 10:51, Michał Górny wrote: > [..] I think we'd really benefit from having some kind of helper > scripts / checklist of tasks to be done prior to/after install. > > For example, you'd run 'check-my-install' script and it'd tell you > what

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > I personally don't think Gentoo needs installer as-is. However, I think > we'd really benefit from having some kind of helper scripts / checklist > of tasks to be done prior to/after install. I think something that would be really useful is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 Matthew Marchese napisał(a): > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've > been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC concerning my > plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo having a "official" installe

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 18/07/15 21:01, Matthew Marchese wrote: > I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to > hearing from you. The plan is good, having multiple backends is a boon since then you can have large install images and tiny install images. An installer is basically covering part

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-19 Thread wireless
On 07/18/2015 11:30 PM, J.Rutkowski wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, at 07:06 PM, hasufell wrote: The handbook consists of different sections. Installation is only one of them. An installer would just "replace" that part, not the others. Agreed. I think that any proposed or actual installer sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-19 Thread Matthew Marchese
NP, You bring about some good points. stager still start with command-line interface that can either pass values via command-line options + arguments or via 'profiles' which are .ini formatted text files with values predefined. The name 'profile' is subject to change because I don't want to con

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread J.Rutkowski
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, at 07:06 PM, hasufell wrote: > The handbook consists of different sections. Installation is only one of > them. An installer would just "replace" that part, not the others. Agreed. I think that any proposed or actual installer shouldn't replace any part of the handbook (an

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 19 July 2015 02:05:21 Patrice Clement wrote: > Saturday 18 Jul 2015 15:36:01, NP-Hardass wrote : > I fancy your idea a lot. We ought to do it for complete newbies who are new > to Gentoo but would like to give the distribution a shot nonetheless. I > fondly remember my first attempt who t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread hasufell
On 07/18/2015 09:36 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 > Matthew Marchese wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer >> project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one >> via IRC concerning my plans. Mos

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Patrice Clement
Saturday 18 Jul 2015 15:36:01, NP-Hardass wrote : > On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 > Matthew Marchese wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer > > project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one > > via IRC concerning

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread NP-Hardass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 Matthew Marchese wrote: > Hello all, > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer > project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one > via IRC concerning my plans. Most s

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Matthew Marchese
Hello all, I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC concerning my plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo having a "official" installer (the biggest concern is appears to be how things will b