Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2020-08-08 at 21:17 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > That's the entire reason that eudev was necessary. Really? And I've thought that the primary reason was that udev upstrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Rich, On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 06:22:17PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM Roy Bamford wrote: > > > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > > That's the entire reason that eudev was nec

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:48 PM Roy Bamford wrote: > > On 2020.08.08 23:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM Roy Bamford > > wrote: > > > > > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > > > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > > > That'

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.08.08 23:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > > That's the entire reason that eudev was necessary. > > > > I would want

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Jaco Kroon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 It actually works is enough reason for me.  Was forced to migrate a > bunch of systems not six months back from systemd-udev to eudev because > systemd-udev is absolutely terrible w.r.t. race conditions resulting in > lockups that kept forcing us i

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM Roy Bamford wrote: > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > That's the entire reason that eudev was necessary. > > I would want some convincing that it was not another step on the road

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 11:38:36PM +0200, Jaco Kroon wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 2020/08/08 22:57, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 09:17:20PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > >> On 2020.08.08 19:51, William Hubbs wrote: > >>> All, > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Jaco Kroon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 2020/08/08 22:57, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 09:17:20PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: >> On 2020.08.08 19:51, William Hubbs wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on >>> new

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 09:17:20PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2020.08.08 19:51, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on > > new > > systems from eudev to udev. > > > > This is not a lastrites, and it will not affect current sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.08.08 19:51, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on > new > systems from eudev to udev. > > This is not a lastrites, and it will not affect current systems since > they have to migrate manually. Also, this change can be overridd

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on new > systems from eudev to udev. Well... maybe you could somewhat expand on the why? -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc D

[gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread William Hubbs
All, I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on new systems from eudev to udev. This is not a lastrites, and it will not affect current systems since they have to migrate manually. Also, this change can be overridden at the profile level if some profile needs eudev (the l

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2020-08-08 Thread Miroslav Šulc
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