On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 09:17:20PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2020.08.08 19:51, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on > > new > > systems from eudev to udev. > > > > This is not a lastrites, and it will not affect current systems since > > they have to migrate manually. Also, this change can be overridden at > > the profile level if some profile needs eudev (the last time I > > checked, > > this applies to non-glibc configurations). > > > > What do people think? > > > > Thanks, > > > > William > > > > > > William, > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > That's the entire reason that eudev was necessary. Eudev never became necessary unless you are using a non-glibc system, and as I said, this can be handled in the profiles. Udev runs completely fine without systemd, so I fail to see how eudev is necessary for most of Gentoo.
> I would want some convincing that it was not another step on the road > to Gentoo being assimilated by systemd. > > We had this discussion several years ago when the default became > eudev. What's changed? If systemd folks do make udev inseparable from systemd, then we would need eudev to be the default, but as I see it right now, there is not a case for it being the default. Another thing to consider is bus factor (eudev is maintained by one person primarily, so I have doubts about its viability as the default. William
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