[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:33:50 -0700 as excerpted: >>> Couldn't you, on udev upgrade, move everything in /lib/udev to >>> /usr/lib/udev, and then make the symlink? Seems fairly simple to me, >>> but maybe I'm overlooking something? >> >> You are overlooking conflicts introduced th

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-12 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:31 -0500 as excerpted: >> And make sure that >> /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug points to udev. > > If you are using udev, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug should be empty; do not > point this to udev. Yes. I've not changed that setting from whatever the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 12:30 -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:41:04 -0700 > Brian Dolbec wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:59:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > How do you plan to handle the following:

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev

2012-07-12 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:07:41PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote > > First a disclaimer... I am not a C programmer, let alone a developer. > I feel like I've been dragged into this kicking and screaming in order > to save th

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Jonathan Callen
On 07/12/2012 05:09 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > @@ -33,10 +35,14 @@ > # Get unprefixed udev rules directory. > _udev_get_rulesdir() { > local dir > - if has_version ' - dir=/lib/udev/rules.d > + if "$($(tc-getPKG_CONFIG) --exists udev)"; then This should probably be:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/13/2012 12:01 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 07/13/2012 12:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:58:29 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 07/11/2012 10:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently in /lib/udev to /usr/

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/13/2012 12:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:58:29 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 07/11/2012 10:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. For packages that install udev rules

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:58:29 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 07/11/2012 10:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything > > currently in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. > > > > For packages that install udev rules in ${FILESDIR}, we need an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for a (temporary) proxy docdev for french documentation

2012-07-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/12/2012 05:22 PM, Xavier Miller wrote: > Hello, > > The french documentation is quite outdated, and this is not a good > "vitrine" to Gentoo for the French-speaking users. By this > outdated documentation, we get, in the french subforum and >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Please don't hardcode the path like this, use pkg-config instead: > > inherit toolchain-funcs > > dir="$($(tc-getPKG_CONFIG) --variable=udevdir udev)/rules.d" > Heh, I didn't realize udev installed a pkg-config file for that. Nice.

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev

2012-07-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote First a disclaimer... I am not a C programmer, let alone a developer. I feel like I've been dragged into this kicking and screaming in order to save the Gentoo that I remember from a few years ago. > Out of curiosity, since mdev i

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/11/2012 10:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything currently in /lib/udev to /usr/lib/udev. For packages that install udev rules in ${FILESDIR}, we need an eclass that tests the version of udev installed on the user's system and instal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2012-07-12 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 21:09 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> Maybe Tony mismerged your changes into his? > > Thank you for your trust in me. > cvs commit -m completed non-interactively, without notification of > conflict or request to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2012-07-12 Thread Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 21:09 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Maybe Tony mismerged your changes into his? Thank you for your trust in me. cvs commit -m completed non-interactively, without notification of conflict or request to merge. Regards, Tony V. signature.asc Description: This is a digitall

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2012-07-12 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > Shouldn't CVS have prevented my changes to profile.mask from being > overwritten by the next committer? Maybe Tony mismerged your changes into his? On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 12-07-2012 14:50:18 -040

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2012-07-12 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 12-07-2012 14:50:18 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > Shouldn't CVS have prevented my changes to profile.mask from being > overwritten by the next committer? How could CVS have done that (or git, hg, whatever VCS)? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2012-07-12 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
Shouldn't CVS have prevented my changes to profile.mask from being overwritten by the next committer? > chainsaw12/07/11 12:24:43 > > Modified: ChangeLog package.mask > Log: > Mask =net-misc/asterisk-10.6.0 for null pointer dereferencing. > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for a (temporary) proxy docdev for french documentation

2012-07-12 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 06:22:31PM +0200, Xavier Miller wrote: > The french documentation is quite outdated, and this is not a good > "vitrine" to Gentoo for the French-speaking users. > By this outdated documentation, we get, in the french subforum and > #gentoofr IRC channel, many outdated ques

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-12 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 11/07/2012 22:33, Mike Gilbert ha scritto: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:27:41PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: Just to put a number to this, there are currently 126 packages in the tree with a dependency on sys-fs/udev. Personally, I think a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:50:42 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 07/11/2012 07:25 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > > On 07/11/2012 07:48 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:59:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > >>> How do you plan to handle the following: > >>> - foo installs

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:41:04 -0700 Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:59:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > How do you plan to handle the following: > > > - foo installs an udev rule > > > - install foo with old udev

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:48:08 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 04:59:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > How do you plan to handle the following: > > - foo installs an udev rule > > - install foo with old udev > > - upgrade udev > > > > are rules installed by foo used by ne

[gentoo-dev] Looking for a (temporary) proxy docdev for french documentation

2012-07-12 Thread Xavier Miller
Hello, The french documentation is quite outdated, and this is not a good "vitrine" to Gentoo for the French-speaking users. By this outdated documentation, we get, in the french subforum and #gentoofr IRC channel, many outdated questions about HAL, baselayout 1, or CHOST changes... I had co

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:34:56 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 12/07/12 10:20 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:43:57 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > > wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > >> > >> On

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:34:12 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > ..i'm not following this -- so it's common (ie, portage, paludis, etc > all use it) because it's always been there? It's sort of commonish because there's some disgusting code in some eclas

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:22:20PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:11:42 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > > > # @FUNCTION: _udev_get_rulesdir > > # @INTERNAL > > # @DESCRIPTION: > > # Get unprefixed udev rules directory. > > _udev_get_rulesdir() { > > local dir > > if ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 10:20 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:43:57 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 12/07/12 01:01 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >>> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 10:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:47:33 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> Updating vdb shouldn't be an issue here, as long as pkg_postinst >> doesn't crash mid-stream. Is the vdb common between package >> managers

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
> DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all. > > Where is that documented? man inittab

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:11:42 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > # @FUNCTION: _udev_get_rulesdir > # @INTERNAL > # @DESCRIPTION: > # Get unprefixed udev rules directory. > _udev_get_rulesdir() { > local dir > if has_version ' dir=/lib/udev/rules.d > else > d

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:43:57 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 12/07/12 01:01 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > > On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò > >> wrote: > >>> Il 11/

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:47:33 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 12/07/12 03:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:01:21 +0800 Ben de Groot > > wrote: > > > >> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs > >> wrote: > >>> On Wed, J

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-libs/ffcall is looking for a new maintainer

2012-07-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/11/2012 04:36 PM, Bernard Cafarelli wrote: This package historically belongs to the gnustep herd, but ffcall support in gnustep has been deprecated for some time now in favor of libffi (in fact the USE-flag may go away soon) Also, I do not have the time to work on it, although it requires

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Output / End User Experience

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 07:41 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 12 July 2012 17:52, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot >> wrote: >>> Actually, there is another workable solution, and that is to >>> set USE="-gstreamer -icu" for qt

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 03:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:01:21 +0800 Ben de Groot > wrote: > >> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò >>> wrote: Il 11/07/2012

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 01:01 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò >> wrote: >>> Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto: I am about to release udev-186-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Output / End User Experience

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/07/12 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 12 July 2012 06:51, Zac Medico wrote: >> >> Here's another related bug report, specifically about the solving >> the libxml2/qt-webkit/chromium conflict: >> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=

[gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev

2012-07-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/07/12 11:40 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:49:18AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote >> Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of >> work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for >> udev. There's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Output / End User Experience

2012-07-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 July 2012 17:52, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> Actually, there is another workable solution, and that is to set >> USE="-gstreamer -icu" for qt-webkit. >> >> Currently we enable gstreamer by default in the ebuild (as it >> is used for HTML5 a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Output / End User Experience

2012-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Actually, there is another workable solution, and that is to set > USE="-gstreamer -icu" for qt-webkit. > > Currently we enable gstreamer by default in the ebuild (as it > is used for HTML5 audio/video, which is expected functionality > in qt

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/12/2012 12:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:01:21 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: > >> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto: > I am about to

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:01:21 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > >> Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto: > >> > I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything >