On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down.
> Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't
> remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be
> much o
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't
> remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be
> much of an issue with the next release, since we're switching to Xfce
> rather than GNOME to bring t
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
> for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
> state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have
> maintainers to
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 16:18 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 23:39 +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> > Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and
> > need to recover their systems. It's a good ask as it is *in* the kernel
> > even if marked experimental.
>
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 04:06:25PM -0700, Mike Doty wrote:
> >> We really need to get a -commits mailing list going again. If the
> >> subject and/or sender are set appropriately, it should be easy to filter
> >> for items of interest.
> > some of us infra types were entertaining a RS feed for this
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 23:39 +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > Of course, the LiveDVD
> > will have everything on it, as it does now.
>
>
>
> Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and
> need to recover their syste
Mike Doty wrote:
> Donnie Berkowitz wrote:
>> Petteri Räty wrote:
>>> Philipp Riegger kirjoitti:
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> So, what do you guys think?
One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
changes to the wip ebuil
Donnie Berkowitz wrote:
> Petteri Räty wrote:
>> Philipp Riegger kirjoitti:
>>> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
So, what do you guys think?
>>> One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
>>> changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somew
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
> for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
> state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have
> maintainers to assure that
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 01:01:11AM +0300, Philipp Riegger wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 12:48 -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> > It's not a vulnerability in Rules du Jour. It's a bunch of spammers
> > attacking the Rules du Jour servers and ISP. SARE has also been down a
> > whole bunch over the last co
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 01:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti:
> > More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
> > for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
> > state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We h
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:19 -0700, Mike Doty wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >
> > There's a couple more that I wouldn't mind seeing as things developers
> > can do without the maintainer, but I can see how these might be a bit
> > more controversial, so I'm asking for input.
> >
>
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 01:34 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> So, what do you guys think?
> >
> > One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
> > changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somewhere else. Is there a
> > system to email any changes done to ebuilds maintaine
Petteri Räty wrote:
> Philipp Riegger kirjoitti:
>> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>>> So, what do you guys think?
>> One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
>> changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somewhere else. Is there a
>> system
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Of course, the LiveDVD
> will have everything on it, as it does now.
Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and
need to recover their systems. It's a good ask as it is *in* the kernel
even if marked experiment
Philipp Riegger kirjoitti:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>> So, what do you guys think?
>
> One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
> changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somewhere else. Is there a
> system to email any changes do
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> So, what do you guys think?
One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the
changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somewhere else. Is there a
system to email any changes done to ebuilds maintained by developer
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti:
> More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
> for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
> state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have
> maintainers to assure that a package is being taken care
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[snip]
>
> There's a couple more that I wouldn't mind seeing as things developers
> can do without the maintainer, but I can see how these might be a bit
> more controversial, so I'm asking for input.
>
> - Version bumps where the only requirement is to "cp" the ebuild
Th
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 12:48 -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> It's not a vulnerability in Rules du Jour. It's a bunch of spammers
> attacking the Rules du Jour servers and ISP. SARE has also been down a
> whole bunch over the last couple of months due to the same attack.
Which will probably never happen
More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have
maintainers to assure that a package is being taken care of, not to
establish some kind of "t
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:56 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> >> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote:
> +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote:
+ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed to configure it
without further investigations. cups is already in)
+startup
Pierre-Yves Rofes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, August 3, 2007 2:07 am, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > The upstream rules_du_jour folk have had issues over the last few
> > months with DDoS and other attacks. Additionally, the nature of
> > their original update mechanism causes a lot of traffi
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti:
>
> One thing to remember, I do *not* consider our desktop profiles to be
> "opt-in" but rather to be a good out-of-box experience for the user. If
> you want to think of the desktop profiles as bloated, feel free to use
> the versioned profile (like 2007.0) instead, a
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:09 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote:
> >> +startup-notification
>
> Actually, rereading that list, I wouldn't mind adding this one. Gnome
> and a couple of core Gnome apps hard-depend on it, as
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote:
> >> +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed to configure it
> >> without further investigations. cups is already in)
> >> +startup-notific
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens to be at the
> time) says "hey i plan on stabilizing Linux x.y.z" and someone goes "wait,
> you cant until we get working", the reply
> is of course "blow it
On Friday 03 August 2007, Daniel Drake wrote:
> All that aside, my advice for developers considering maintaining kernel
> code in portage outside of the kernel still remains as "don't do it".
> Your package grows bugs overnight. It's a continual challenge trying to
> keep up, and it's a headache fo
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens to be at the
time) says "hey i plan on stabilizing Linux x.y.z" and someone goes "wait,
you cant until we get working", the reply
is of course "blow it out your arse^H^H^H^Htalk to the package maintainer,
On Friday 03 August 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was
> >> that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever
> >> be grounds for preventing stabili
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:35:18 -0700
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:55 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:31:09 -0400
> >> Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> if the driver blows dead goats and
> Er it's been pointed out to me that this is a Google SoC project, so
> apologies for the beginners info. (I'd forgotten your earlier post.)
Oh, no problem, I am a beginner after all :-) And I always forget to
add project's homepage
to the message :-/
> BTW I don't recommend autotools (there's a
On Fri, August 3, 2007 2:07 am, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Heya,
>
> The upstream rules_du_jour folk have had issues over the last few months
> with DDoS and other attacks. Additionally, the nature of their original
> update mechanism causes a lot of traffic.
>
> Everybody that is using rules_du_jo
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Mike Frysinger wrote:
my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i
do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds
for preventing stabilization of a kernel ebuild
so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel
Hi,
It's bugday tomorrow! This announcement is going out a 'lil early,
seeing as I will not be around tomorrow, or for the rest of the week,
and most of the team seem to be afk, so I can't poke them too easily,
unfortunately. :( (hopefully, they'll be around on the day :P)
Anyways, as per usual,
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote:
>> +startup-notification
Actually, rereading that list, I wouldn't mind adding this one. Gnome
and a couple of core Gnome apps hard-depend on it, as I am must sure
must be the case in KDE.
Samuli also told me that
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