Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:54 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | emerge blar --repo=ciaranmssekritrepo > | > | This accomplishes the same thing, except I get to name the repo > | whatever I wish, and you lose th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:54 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | emerge blar --repo=ciaranmssekritrepo | | This accomplishes the same thing, except I get to name the repo | whatever I wish, and you lose the ability to specify repositories in | DEPEND. ...and it stops you from being abl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:05 -0500 Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | 2. What choices/options are on the table for this feature? > > The big controversy seems to be over whether repositories carry a > unique identi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Andrew Muraco
Curtis Napier wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:05 -0500 Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | 2. What choices/options are on the table for this feature? The big controversy seems to be over whether repositories carry a unique identifier string (for example, in meta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Curtis Napier
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:05 -0500 Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | 2. What choices/options are on the table for this feature? The big controversy seems to be over whether repositories carry a unique identifier string (for example, in metadata/repository_id) or w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:05 -0500 Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | 2. What choices/options are on the table for this feature? The big controversy seems to be over whether repositories carry a unique identifier string (for example, in metadata/repository_id) or whether it's user-assigned

[gentoo-dev] December 15th Meeting Summary

2005-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
uncil/meeting-logs/20051215.txt -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-15 Thread Andrew Muraco
As i sit reading the current list of list emails about GLEP 42 I see that the topic of Multiple Repos coming up over and over again. I wanted to ask to see where that support is, and based on what feedback help move along so that a standard can be produced. So, now with a few short questions:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: disallowing multiple votes per person in council meetings

2005-12-15 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:20:36PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Possible proposal: the current council meeting rules be updated with > one of the following two clauses: > > > A proxy must not be an existing council member, and any single person > > may not be a proxy for more than one person at

[gentoo-dev] RFC: disallowing multiple votes per person in council meetings

2005-12-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Possible proposal: the current council meeting rules be updated with one of the following two clauses: > Each person at a council meeting may represent only one voting role. Or: > A proxy must not be an existing council member, and any single person > may not be a proxy for more than one person

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Curtis Napier
Wernfried Haas wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:13:34AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: There was a tip in the GWN about turning on dir_index on an already formatted file system. If formatting a new one, just use mkfs.ext2 -J -O dir_index /dev/$whatever to create your file system. Good thing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread John Myers
On Thursday 15 December 2005 04:48, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance > of a Gentoo system. > Overoptimization (the well known "-O9 -fomgomg" CFLAGS etc.) tends to > make things unstable, which is of course not what we want. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:13:34AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > CFQ is much worse for a desktop system. I tend to like deadline for > playing games. These can probably make a bit more difference than a new > -fomg-itsofast-and-broken-math added to CFLAGS. That's funny, i switched from defaul

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Duncan
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:03:59 +0100: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:43, Patrick Lauer wrote: >> [talking about -Os if I'm right] >> I've seen some reproducable breakage, e.g. KDE doesn't like it at all > Actually, I'm runnin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Patrick Lauer wrote: > -user has the risk of many "use teh -fomglol flag, it si teh fast0r" ;-) > hardened doesn't have much to do with performance (although I'd be > interested what impact - if any - the different security features have!) fresh of typing (but worked on for few months) http://www.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Matthijs van der Vleuten
On 12/15/05, Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are there any application-specific tweaks (e.g. "use the prefork MPM > > > with apache2")? [...] > > is'n there "ab" [1] for apache testing ? > Yes, but that's apache specific and is quite hard to use correctly. Isn't that what you asked?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:43, Patrick Lauer wrote: > [talking about -Os if I'm right] > I've seen some reproducable breakage, e.g. KDE doesn't like it at all Actually, I'm running KDE with -Os right now... -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 14:43 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote: > having more than one disk or a lot of memory add very interesting > addition, read raid 0 (stripe) or tmpfs for working data that does'nt > need a backup fex: $PORTIR, /var/tmp ... tmpfs has miserable performance when larger than RAM iirc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 13:48 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance > of a Gentoo system. for package in $system_packages; do profile_application $package eliminate_bottlenecks $package submit_patch_upstream $

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer wrote: | On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 07:43 -0700, Duncan wrote: |>This really belongs on user, or perhaps on the appropriate purposed list, |>desktop or hardened or whatever, not on devel. That said, some |>comments... (I can't resist. ) | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 07:43 -0700, Duncan wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance > > of a Gentoo system. > This really belongs on user, or perhaps on the appropriate purposed list, > desktop or hardened or whatever, not on devel. That said, some > comment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Creating a Sketeton System

2005-12-15 Thread George Prowse
No, only the config files that are in a stage 3 should be left, some of those will be edited and some will have been upgraded so they should be left. It would be like emerge --unmerge --shallow world to take you back the that original state so then any major changes could be made without reinstalli

[gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:05 +0100: > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance > of a Gentoo system. This really belongs on user, or perhaps on the appropriate purposed list, desktop or hardened or whatever,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 13:48 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > - don't overtweak CFLAGS. "-O2 -march=$your_cpu_family" seems to be on > average the best, -O3 is often slower and can cause bugs -O2 -march=$your_cpu_family -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe Use pipes rather than temporary files fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 15 December 2005 14:43, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Some upstreams, mostly media related but also unsuspectable like MySQL, > use and test their apps with high optimizations. Not exactly true.. many media related upstreams forces "ricing" flags (-fomg-so-fast) on packages, but that does n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Patrick Lauer wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance > of a Gentoo system. > Overoptimization (the well known "-O9 -fomgomg" CFLAGS etc.) tends to > make things unstable, which is of course not what we want. The "easy" > way out would be buying

[gentoo-dev] Optimizing performance

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
Hi all, I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance of a Gentoo system. Overoptimization (the well known "-O9 -fomgomg" CFLAGS etc.) tends to make things unstable, which is of course not what we want. The "easy" way out would be buying faster hardware, but that is usuall