Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Nov 30, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: As much as I would enjoy seeing two umbrella projects duel over an amorphous set of marketing terms invented by IBM, I think the ASF should be developing products, not architectural styles. Although, calling SOA an architectural style would im

Re: Solaris zone for Apache Harmony

2005-12-01 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 On 12/1/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to ask incubator if we in Apache Harmony can have a solaris > zone to use for build and test automation. > > Will the PMC support a podling asking for such a resource? > > geir > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
Firstly I have to say I support this on principle. I think - looking at the documents briefly - that there is overlap to a number of Apache projects ( e.g. HiveMind), but I believe in a broad set of components in Apache. I know that the proposal has a wide variety of experienced Apache committers,

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-7) STATUS file out of date, confusing

2005-12-01 Thread Martin Sebor (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-7?page=comments#action_12359051 ] Martin Sebor commented on INCUBATOR-7: -- David, thanks for clarifying the STATUS file! Since it's up to date now I'm fine with you closing the issue (but feel free to ke

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-5) status file requirement unclear

2005-12-01 Thread Martin Sebor (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-5?page=comments#action_12359056 ] Martin Sebor commented on INCUBATOR-5: -- Yes, I believe you're referring to this post: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200510.mbox/[EMAIL PROT

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Paul Fremantle wrote: > > Now - can someone give me an idea of how "open" the model is? In other words > are the specifications behind Tuscany open to being modified? Will they be > submitted to a standards body and in what timeframe? It would be good to > know that Apache and in particular the co

Re: What if commiters are not available or have not time to project?

2005-12-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Sergey Vladimirov wrote: What will happen with project, for example, FTPServer, if nobody of commiters is available or have time to neither apply patches nor fix bugs? What can other people - not commiters - can do in this situation, if they have time to work with project? We had a similar si

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: As much as I would enjoy seeing two umbrella projects duel over an amorphous set of marketing terms invented by IBM, I think the ASF should be developing products, not architectural styles.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Am with you Roy :) -- dims On 12/1/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Nov 30, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > > >> As much as I would enjoy seeing two umbrella projects duel over > >> an amorphous set of marke

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
[I'm having mail problems but saw Roy's reply and want to respond, because this is important, and I want to understand if I grok the problem] On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: So it's fair to take pot shots at SOA - we all do - but I think there's an earnest effort he