[I'm having mail problems but saw Roy's reply and want to respond, because this is important, and I want to understand if I grok the problem]

On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


So it's fair to take pot shots at SOA - we all do - but I think there's an earnest effort here, and there's code that will seed it.


Roy Responded :


Sure, but unless the proposal reflects that effort I will vote
against it.
SOA should not be the proposal.


I think I understand the problem - it's the presentation in the proposal - and having reviewed the proposal, I should have caught it. It reads like "mubble wubble SOA woogie blah foo SOA fwink thoobie wk SOA boo SOA apooth SOA SOA ... SOA ... "


However, this proposal is about SCA specifically, not SOA generally. Granted, SCA is about SOA, so we can continue to irritate our rotator cuffs while we wildly wave our arms when talking about it, but for this project, there's a concrete basis for development - there are a set of developing specs for SCA listed in the proposal, and the seed code is the start of a concrete implementation (in two languages, no less...). The initial goal is that implementation.

My expectation is that this will implement the spec and help drive the spec, and the community (which must diversify if this is to survive) will push it in the way the community wants to go. This isn't a reference implementation.

geir

P.S.  And note, the project is named 'tuSCAny', not 'tuSOAny'  :)

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