Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread James Carman
Emmanuel, I apologize for hijacking your thread. Let me part (and create a new thread) by saying "Welcome, Groovy!" James On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:45 AM, James Carman wrote: > Bertrand, > > It took me a second, but I think I found some threads of interest: > > https://mail-search.apache.org/m

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread James Carman
Bertrand, It took me a second, but I think I found some threads of interest: https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/board/201502.mbox/%3CCABD8fLVxK8jRT-Rdut9xC2RnHmQ4v9yywe4owNf=98ghdyk...@mail.gmail.com%3E https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/operations/201501.mbox/%3

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM, James Carman wrote: > We need to make sure we get these guidelines nailed down, because that is > not the advice we got when doing Tinker pop Do you have archive links to the relevant discussions? -Bertrand --

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread James Carman
We need to make sure we get these guidelines nailed down, because that is not the advice we got when doing Tinker pop. Just seems like a very similar situation. No one entity "owns" groovy. This is also a very likely situation for us to encounter in the future, especially since two of the major o

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
You could sign it "on behalf of the Groovy Core team" > On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > > Me as the "lead" of the project? > But I can't say I have more rights than others. > Who has more "rights" than others? is it in terms of number of commits? > lines contributed? > >

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Guillaume Laforge
Me as the "lead" of the project? But I can't say I have more rights than others. Who has more "rights" than others? is it in terms of number of commits? lines contributed? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Guillaume Laforge >

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > Who should be signing that grant?.. Paul asked the same question in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9341 - I think that's a question for the Groovy team, from the ASF side it's whomever "has sufficient rights to contribu

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Guillaume Laforge
Who should be signing that grant? The copyright / IP is pretty much diluted, so not sure how / who should this be dealt with? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Cédric Champeau > wrote: > > ...I still have a few days full time on Groov

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Cédric Champeau wrote: > ...I still have a few days full time on Groovy, so if we can > leverage that to start the migration of the Git repo for example it would > be nice As mentioned at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9341 a software grant is nee

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Cédric Champeau wrote: > ...I have a document ready that describes the questions and necessary > steps to adapt our release process. It's an asciidoc document that I > convert locally to HTML, I wonder what's the best way to share it For now I guess any github

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Cédric Champeau
Thank you all! I still have a few days full time on Groovy, so if we can leverage that to start the migration of the Git repo for example it would be nice. Not sure what is required though, given we're migrating from GitHub. Also I have a document ready that describes the questions and necessary s

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > For JIRA, can you import our JIRA from Codehaus? > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GROOVY Emmanuel created INFRA-9340 for that and the main Codehaus Jira migration ticket is INFRA-9116 -Bertrand

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Guillaume Laforge
For JIRA, can you import our JIRA from Codehaus? http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GROOVY On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 26/03/15 01:01, Konstantin Boudnik a écrit : > > I have just helped bootstrapping two podlings in the last a couple of > months, > > so I will ad

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 26/03/15 01:01, Konstantin Boudnik a écrit : > I have just helped bootstrapping two podlings in the last a couple of months, > so I will add JIRAs to do the what needs to be done from the INFRA side of the > things. Here is the Infra JIRA : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9338 As

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
I have just helped bootstrapping two podlings in the last a couple of months, so I will add JIRAs to do the what needs to be done from the INFRA side of the things. Cos I On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 05:02PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Hi guys, > > ok, the vote result is out, groovy has been accepte

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
+1 - esp. for private@ list On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 09:57AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I usually start with mentor moderation and try to transition quickly to > committers. > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Jake Farrell wrote: > > > depends, if its private@ the mods control the subscription

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 25/03/15 22:23, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny > wrote: >> ...I'm currently fighting to get the groovy page to appears in the >> incubator web site, I'm not lucky atm. > I just published > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/groovy.htm

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Guillaume Laforge
The "old" Codehaus website on groovy.codehaus.org has been misbehaving and showing only 404. So I redirected all the trafic to the new website groovy-lang.org. But you if you're searching about the lists, details are here on the new site: http://www.groovy-lang.org/mailing-lists.html Guillaume O

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:26 PM, John D. Ament wrote: >>... Hope you don't mind, I just fixed Roman's name Thanks! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:23 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny > wrote: > > ...I'm currently fighting to get the groovy page to appears in the > > incubator web site, I'm not lucky atm. > > I just published > > http://incubator.apache.org/proj

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > ...I'm currently fighting to get the groovy page to appears in the > incubator web site, I'm not lucky atm. I just published http://incubator.apache.org/projects/groovy.html via https://cms.apache.org/incubator/publish?diff=1 -Be

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Steve Loughran
would be good to get hold of groovy.codehaus.org. I was unable to find out anything about using lists yesterday... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@i

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 25/03/15 20:00, Roman Shaposhnik a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >>> ...Another question : who is in charge of all those tasks ?.. >> If you could create tickets like the >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8968 example that would >> enable o

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> ...Another question : who is in charge of all those tasks ?.. > > If you could create tickets like the > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8968 example that would > enable our infra team to get started. Great example. Do we

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake Farrell wrote: > podlings do not appear in the acreq script until they have been added to > podlings.xml, even if they file their ICLA with initial committer as part > of groovy. > > secretary@ needs to get the grant before we can import the code That's the

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 25/03/15 19:42, Jake Farrell a écrit : > podlings do not appear in the acreq script until they have been added to > podlings.xml, even if they file their ICLA with initial committer as part > of groovy. It has been added in podlings.xml. I'm currently fighting to get the groovy page to appears

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Jake Farrell
podlings do not appear in the acreq script until they have been added to podlings.xml, even if they file their ICLA with initial committer as part of groovy. secretary@ needs to get the grant before we can import the code -Jake On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Wed, Ma

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:24 PM Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Technically, I just added two moderators. We can add some more, I guess. > > One more thing : in order to add initial committers, the pdofling must > be listed in https://id.apache.org/acreq/members/?. How do we add it ? > > The ICLAs for

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Jake Farrell
you need to setup the podling in podlings.xml at [1] and update the incubator website -Jake [1]: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Technically, I just added two moderators. We can add some m

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Technically, I just added two moderators. We can add some more, I guess. One more thing : in order to add initial committers, the pdofling must be listed in https://id.apache.org/acreq/members/?. How do we add it ? - To unsubscr

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:00 PM, David Nalley wrote: > it's not like we are limited to having just a few moderators. Nothing > wrong with mentors and initial committers both being on the list of > mods... Especially when those non-mentor moderators are experienced open source folks like in the Gr

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread David Nalley
it's not like we are limited to having just a few moderators. Nothing wrong with mentors and initial committers both being on the list of mods. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I usually start with mentor moderation and try to transition quickly to > committers. > > > > On W

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 > On Mar 25, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Jake Farrell wrote: > > depends, if its private@ the mods control the subscription > > -Jake > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:44 AM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >>> On that note, interesting thing, ju

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Ted Dunning
I usually start with mentor moderation and try to transition quickly to committers. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Jake Farrell wrote: > depends, if its private@ the mods control the subscription > > -Jake > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 25,

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Jake Farrell
depends, if its private@ the mods control the subscription -Jake On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:44 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > On that note, interesting thing, just saw the commit go in for infra to > > create the mailing lists. Are we

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Jake Farrell
Should just be the mentors to start with and not any of the new committers that are not familiar with processes -Jake On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On that note, interesting thing, just saw the commit go in for infra to > create the mailing lists. Are we really allow

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:44 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On that note, interesting thing, just saw the commit go in for infra to > create the mailing lists. Are we really allowing new committers to be the > mods? It's typically the mentors (from what I've seen). Definitely having committers serve

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread John D. Ament
On that note, interesting thing, just saw the commit go in for infra to create the mailing lists. Are we really allowing new committers to be the mods? It's typically the mentors (from what I've seen). John On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:34 PM Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:02

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > I most certainly am missing some steps... Feel free to add items. > > Another question : who is in charge of all those tasks ? The podling's Mentors, collectively. See the Mentor Guide: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > ...- vote the 5 proposed persons as committers, once they have submitted > their ICLA (it's already done for a few of them).. The iCLAs are needed but no need to vote them in, we just create their accounts - the podling acceptance v