Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/1/2011 4:04 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > >> From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] >> We also made it clear the *author* should also commit their own code, and >> all authors should become committers. > > Each term (semester) Bluesky will get a new crop of students (committer

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > Are we to keep on creating new committer accts for these folks knowing damn > well > that at the end of the term they disappear and a new lot appears? This is why > they ( > when they did commit) shared accounts. What if the students all s

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] >> Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:24 AM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Bluesky calls for a new

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] > Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:24 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor! > > On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > > On

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the >> vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has >> 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Luciano Resende
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the > vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has > 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and should go put itself on > github. If enough people di

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
This reflects my sentiments as well. Regards, Alan On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the > vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has > 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and s

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Benson Margulies
Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and should go put itself on github. If enough people disagree, they can vote -1. My vote is +1 to retire. On Fri, Jul

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Bill Stoddard
I am not certain on this point, but I believe Jack Cai would be interested in being a mentor. I don't think he is subscribed to this mailing list tho. Jack? Bill On 6/29/11 9:12 PM, Chen Liu wrote: Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Samuel Kevin wrote: > Most of the developers of BlueSky project are students. As you all know, > students come when they join in school and go after they graduate. So > the active developers are around 10. Like we used to have 5 committers, > but now we only have 2 committers in active. As othe

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:37, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> I believe projects from  school could also rock in Apache as well. You can >> look down up on us but you can't deny others. > > This is not the point. > > The point is, if you have contributors who have no apache id, they > > a) need to

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Upayavira
Personally, I see a *HEAP* of stuff Bluesky would need to handle before doing an ASF release. I would get that right out of your head from the start. Firstly, you would have to have demonstrated that all the code is covered by software grants or ICLAs that are held by the Apache Software Foundati

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> I believe projects from  school could also rock in Apache as well. You can > look down up on us but you can't deny others. This is not the point. The point is, if you have contributors who have no apache id, they a) need to sign an ICLA b) need to create an Jira issue and attach an svn diff th

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Ralph: I am not avoiding the truth that we suck during the last three years, though we were once at the verge of release. It's* just* we *Bluesky Team @ XJTU ,Xi'an China* fail to make it good, please remember it well. I believe projects from school could also rock in Apache as well. Yo

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Luciano: Currently, we have 4 committers. And 2 of them stay inactive. The newest source code would be committed by me after the students grant warrant. regards, Kevin 2011/6/30 Luciano Resende > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Chen Liu wrote: > > We really appreciate both of your su

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Chen Liu wrote: > We really appreciate both of your suggestions on Bluesky's development in > ASF. > > We think that we are supposed to finish code release work of the 4th version > in the end of July.Due to the effective work we really need a experienced > mentor

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Ralph Goers
Sorry, but the explanation below makes things sound even worse. Apache projects are not here to give students a place to do school work. What you have described is not a community. If the project cannot build a community of people who are interested in the project for more than a school term th

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Chen Liu
We really appreciate both of your suggestions on Bluesky's development in ASF. We think that we are supposed to finish code release work of the 4th version in the end of July.Due to the effective work we really need a experienced mentor to guide our release. In addition, there are about 8-9 develo

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Noel: 2011/6/30 Noel J. Bergman > Joe Schaefer wrote: > > Chen Liu wrote: > > > We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software > > > Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. > > > You are supposed to be doing your development work in the A

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Chen Liu wrote: > > We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software > > Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. > You are supposed to be doing your development work in the ASF subversion > repository, using ASF mailing list

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Joe Schaefer
Sorry, I'm going to pass on this. During the entire time you guys have been at the ASF you have not managed to develop *any* project governance that could be charitably be described as open. You are supposed to be doing your development work in the ASF subversion repository, using ASF mailing lis