Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-15 Thread Martin Sebor
Thank you all for your comments. I assume everyone's questions so far have been satisfactorily answered and concerns addressed. Below is the resolution updated as Bill suggested. In the absence of further discussion I plan to close the vote at the end of the business day tomorrow (US/Mountain time

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (non-binding) On 10/14/07, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > >> Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >>> I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe > >>> that we should release a project with existing copyright issues.

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 for graduation. Craig On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Martin Sebor wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe that we should release a project with existing copyright issues. If this

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Martin Sebor
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe that we should release a project with existing copyright issues. If this were to mean that stdcxx graduation would wait until November's Board meeting, I'

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 12, 2007, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sebor wrote: After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we are ready to propose to the Incubator PMC to gradua

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'm looking forward to the incubator spending more energy directed at the fledgling (and floundering) efforts which need a great share of our attention. Do you have something specific in mind? Do you have some list of projects where the Incu

RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I feel that we start down a slippery slope when we graduate > > projects which are "not yet" compliant, but "will be". > So if I'm to understand correctly, you would be satisfied once > svn/trunk is shown to pass the RAT tests? I would hav

RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Who said it wasn't compliant? And I quote again: == Martin Sebor wrote: > I'm still cleaning up the license headers on trunk. Once we're > all satisfied with the result and after we merge trunk to 4.2.0 > I plan to take your suggestion and solicit help from som

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 13, 2007 4:28 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel that we start down a slippery slope when we graduate projects which > are "not yet" compliant, but "will be". When? Craig points out that it has > been some months since the issue was raised by you, and it is still not

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I feel that we start down a slippery slope when we graduate projects which are "not yet" compliant, but "will be". When? Craig points out that it has been some months since the issue was raised by you, and it is still not resolved. Hence: So if I'm to understand cor

RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > RAT is a later addition to their tool kit RAT is a tool that attempts to verify compliance. The things to which RAT verifies compliance are not new, even if RAT is new relative to stdcxx coming into the Incubator. I feel that we start down a slippery slope when we

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: In fact, haven't people called for providing a release build to be a graduation requirement? Yes - I seem to recall that proposition was not made a 'requirement'. But in answer to your question; *yes* they have performed an incubating- release and demonstrated that they

RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe > > that we should release a project with existing copyright issues. If > > this were to mean that stdcxx graduation would wait until November's > > Board meeting, I'd be comf

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Martin, After reviewing http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--ready-to-graduate- tf4386148.html#a12504335 I have two issues. First: Martin Sebor wrote: Bill Rowe wrote: With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release tarb

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 13, 2007 12:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe that we > should release a project with existing copyright issues. If this were to > mean that stdcxx graduation would wait until November's Board meeting, I'

RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin, After reviewing > http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--ready-to-graduate-tf4386148.html#a12504335 I have two issues. First: Martin Sebor wrote: > Bill Rowe wrote: > > With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release > > tarball against the RAT tool to make sure every copyri

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/12/07, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt > (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, > the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we > are ready to propose to the Incubator PMC

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Martin Sebor wrote: After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we are ready to propose to the Incubator PMC to graduate stdcxx to a Top Level Proj

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/12/07, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...We invite everyone to vote to approve this proposal... +1 -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We invite everyone to vote to approve this proposal. +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 11, 2007 6:51 PM, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt > (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, > the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we > are ready to propose to the I