Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/5/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i've always assumed that every mentor needed to be a member but IMHO we should really consider what the rule should be and then vote to amend the policy appropriately. At one time, there was only one mentor, and now there are three, an

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-06 Thread Alex Karasulu
On 4/5/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/5/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, > > incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page: > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html > > [...] > Acceptance By

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 06 April 2007 12:26, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Friday 06 April 2007 12:03, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >> Mentors must be on the iPMC, most iPMC members are ASF members (very > >> rare that it is otherwise, > > > > Yes, I have noticed that ;o) > > But I

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Friday 06 April 2007 12:03, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Mentors must be on the iPMC, most iPMC members are ASF members (very rare >> that it is otherwise, > > Yes, I have noticed that ;o) > But I am one such rare case, so I see the distinction, and since an ASF > Mem

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 06 April 2007 12:03, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Mentors must be on the iPMC, most iPMC members are ASF members (very rare > that it is otherwise, Yes, I have noticed that ;o) But I am one such rare case, so I see the distinction, and since an ASF Member has the right to be member of

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Friday 06 April 2007 05:44, Jean T. Anderson wrote: >> I had recalled this being discussed before [1] because Cayenne had a >> mentor who was not a member. > > So we are talking about a couple of variants; > > 1. An ASF Member. > 2. An IPMC member. > 3. A PMC member

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 06 April 2007 05:44, Jean T. Anderson wrote: > I had recalled this being discussed before [1] because Cayenne had a > mentor who was not a member. So we are talking about a couple of variants; 1. An ASF Member. 2. An IPMC member. 3. A PMC member of the sponsoring PMC. 4. Any PMC mem

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread Jean T. Anderson
I had recalled this being discussed before [1] because Cayenne had a mentor who was not a member. "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 14 Jul 2006: > Bruce Snyder wrote: > >> What do you mean fix the doc? Is it not the policy that mentors be >> members? I've seen and been involved

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/5/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html [...] Acceptance By Incubator [...] * the Mentors, nominated by the Sponsor, who will guide t

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread Craig L Russell
On Apr 5, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Martin Sebor wrote: Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Well, incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page: FWIW, the two statements aren't contradictory. "At least one" doesn't imply "not all." The second requirement is simply a strengtheni

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

2007-04-05 Thread Martin Sebor
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Well, incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page: FWIW, the two statements aren't contradictory. "At least one" doesn't imply "not all." The second requirement is simply a strengthening of the first one ;-) I do agree that the text cou

Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-05 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Well, incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html [...] Acceptance By Incubator [...] * the Mentors, nominated by the Sponsor, who will guide the Candidate through the Incubation Process. At least one nomin