Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCF proposal

[Craig L Russell]

On Apr 5, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Martin Sebor wrote:

Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:

Well,

incubator policy is able to contradict itself on one and the same page:

FWIW, the two statements aren't contradictory. "At least one"
doesn't imply "not all." The second requirement is simply a
strengthening of the first one ;-)

Craig

I hate to be a stickler here, but the second statement does say that "A Mentor is... a permanent member of the [ASF]. I'd like to see member capitalized to indicate that it is a "defined term" but to me it's clear that the second statement requires that Mentors be Members and the first does not. But I think the main point is that the IPMC needs to decide whether all or just at least one Mentor must be a Member.

I do agree that the text could be worded better.

Martin

http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
[...]
Acceptance By Incubator
[...]
* the Mentors, nominated by the Sponsor, who will guide the Candidate

member of the Apache Software Foundation.
[...]
Roles Defined
 Mentor
[...]
A Mentor is a role undertaken by a permanent member of the Apache

discharge of their duties (listed above).
[...]

a member?       Confused
                Henning
On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 13:57 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:

through the Incubation Process. At least one nominated Mentor MUST be a Software Foundation and is chosen by the Sponsor to actively lead in the So what is it? A mentor must be a member or at least one mentor must be

On 4/4/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wednesday 04 April 2007 02:01, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:

As a mentor, I do obviously approve this process.


if this proposal goes through, I do become one, don't I?)

+1 (non-binding, as I am not an Incubator PMC member. As I understand,

AFAIK, you *must* be on the IPMC to be a mentor.

yes but prospective mentors need not be

AIUI mentors must be members and should be drafted onto the IPMC by
the proposal motion

- robert


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