Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Malcolm Edgar
OK thanks for that feedback. These contributions were not specifically assigned to me by the comitters, so I think there copyright status is disputable. I dont think we need to consider this aspect further, and should just proceed as normal. regards Malcolm Edgar On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote: One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code people have explicity assigned their copyright t

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Malcolm Edgar
One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code people have explicity assigned their copyright to me. This was a habit I picked up from working on T

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that is where the lawyers lurk. Good idea. Also keep in mind that the problem scope is not limited to the projects coming to the incubator. It also affects contributions to the existing projects by new people. Currently a

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I feel your pain and I know that Cayenne was in a bad spot because of this. But if we can ease the process for others, why not? Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that is where the lawyers lurk. Ciao Henning On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: >> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other >> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under >> AL2. So there is no n

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite code where the contributor can no

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ),

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-28 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Correct me if I am wrong, but what you are saying is that there should be a record somewhere (such as a Click prior email archive?) where a person states his intent to donate the code? What if this person was a committer, and stated his intent by quietly committing the code? In any case, "r

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-28 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Thanks for pointing this out; in case of Click, this probably means that all current contribution, which are already covered by Apache licenses are fine. So, while it is nice to track down the original authors and get ICLAs from them to explicitly assign the code to the ASF, it is actually not real

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-28 Thread bob
Hi Andrus, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? Yes. His contribution history can be seen here: http://fisheye3.atlassian.com/changelog/~author=amohombe/click/ However much of that code is in a his sandbox which is not part of Click distribution and can

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance process. That isn't quite true. The ASF requires documentation that the original author has licensed

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Malcolm Edgar
Hi Andrus, There are a number of Click Extras controls written by Ahmed, but nothing in the core. These controls will probably have to be moved into a separate non Apache project. regards Malcolm Edgar On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Malcolm, > >

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Malcolm, Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance process. The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of his future participation plans, but that's of course up to hi

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Malcolm Edgar
Phil's ICLA is just for the IP vetting. regards Malcolm Edgar On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, thanks for updating, we will continue without Ahmed initially, > hopefully he can join the project soon. > > Will Phil become a committer (he was

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Ok, thanks for updating, we will continue without Ahmed initially, hopefully he can join the project soon. Will Phil become a committer (he was not in the initial set, so there might be a vote required) or is that ICLA just for the IP vetting? Ciao Henning On Sun, 2008-

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Malcolm Edgar
Hi, Thanks for the update on the ICLA's. Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA. You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early committer to the Click project. I will still try and obtain ICLA's f

Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, this is the current status for the Click incubation: - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for Click - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as described at http://in