gt; Date: Thursday, 22. December 2022 at 08:48
> To: general
> Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
>
>
>> On Dec 21, 2022, at 12:55 AM, Christofer Dutz
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I still think just because a resolution is added
> So here goes:
>
> -1 binding
>
> Chris
>
>
> From: Antoine Toulme
> Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02
> To: general
> Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
> Folks,
>
> Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation v
HI,
> Because this release didn’t have enough votes, we moved it to the general
> incubator list where it was duly voted.
Sorry, that’s not how it works, the PPMC needs to vote on it first, and then
once that has passed, vote for it on the IPMC list. If you don’t get enough
votes on the podlin
here goes:
>
> -1 binding
>
> Chris
>
>
> From: Antoine Toulme
> Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02
> To: general
> Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
> Folks,
>
> Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation
n.
>
> Maybe I should make my opinion a bit more explicit by officially voting -1
>
> So here goes:
>
> -1 binding
>
> Chris
>
>
> From: Antoine Toulme
> Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02
> To: general
> Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni gr
: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02
To: general
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
Folks,
Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation vote.
The results are as follows:
+1: 3 Antoine Toulme (binding), Larry Mccay (binding), Dave Fisher (binding)
+0: 0
-1: 0
>>
>>> Sorry for asking,
>>>
>>> but Dave, could you please explain that reply … admittedly I didn’t
>>> understand what you wanted to say
>>> (Guess I would consider it advanced English and I simply didn’t understand
>>> it).
>>>
&
sh and I simply didn’t understand
>> it).
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> From: Dave Fisher
>> Date: Monday, 12. December 2022 at 06:19
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
>> Thanks. I think you are onto an id
>
> Chris
>
> From: Dave Fisher
> Date: Monday, 12. December 2022 at 06:19
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
> Thanks. I think you are onto an idea of community that could be somehow
> explicitly part of the incubator’s curri
@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
Thanks. I think you are onto an idea of community that could be somehow
explicitly part of the incubator’s curriculum. That’s a separate discussion.
Best,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 11, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Willem Jiang wrote:
>
>
gt;> even if they aren't all materially contributing code.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:45 AM Christofer Dutz
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> And in the last few months the ASF
; >>
> >> And in the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough cases, in which
> >> even big projects suffered from the lack of diversity.
> >> So, I would also consider this to be a blocker.
> >>
> >> Community building isn’t something that happe
>>> And in the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough cases, in which
>>>> even big projects suffered from the lack of diversity.
>>>> So, I would also consider this to be a blocker.
>>>>
>>>> Community building isn’t something tha
would also consider this to be a blocker.
> >>
> >> Community building isn’t something that happens or comes for free.
> >> It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done.
> >>
> >> Just my opinion on this topic.
> >>
> >> Chris
> &
for free.
>> It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done.
>>
>> Just my opinion on this topic.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> From: Willem Jiang
>> Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>&g
or comes for free.
> It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done.
>
> Just my opinion on this topic.
>
> Chris
>
> From: Willem Jiang
> Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
&g
done.
Just my opinion on this topic.
Chris
From: Willem Jiang
Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation
It looks like we need a dedicated community leader[1] to build a
diverse community (just borrow a pattern from
It looks like we need a dedicated community leader[1] to build a
diverse community (just borrow a pattern from InnerSource Common[2]).
" Communication takes up a significant percentage of a community
leader's daily work. At the same time, he or she will likely also have
to spearhead the initial de
Regarding graduation, the ASF official website made some introductions, and
also introduced how to build an open and diverse community.
First,whether graduation requires diversity?
Here is a quote from [1].
> A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and
diverse meritocratic c
Here are the relevant messages Larry mentions:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/rl93tocc2nt3b6lnwvqp3xbnxcvc5cwg
https://lists.apache.org/thread/xrf3ft5b9jzbbtcwo2k8kqbk2fn69vyx
It’s unclear to me how the incubator will further help with establishing
diversity - during our discussion, Justin Mclea
I'm not so sure that I see this as a blocker for graduation.
There was enough consensus and testing to spin and publish 14 releases.
There has been healthy conversation about this very topic among the mentors
and contributors on the private list.
The nature of this project is that the consumption
I agree with Gang Li. The Bus factor[1] of this project is relatively high.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:06 PM li gang wrote:
>
> I checked the contributions of the Tuweni project[1],the traffic of the
>
I checked the contributions of the Tuweni project[1],the traffic of the
mail list d...@tuweni.apache.org[2] and the KEYS[3].
It looks like the project is mainly maintained by Antoine Toulme self,
I have a concern this is not comply with the diversity.
[1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni
Dear Apache Incubator Community and IPMC members,
We discussed the graduation for Tuweni in the Apache Incubator
Community [4], where no issues were raised and positive replies were
received.
After having the graduation discussion in the Tuweni community [1], we
have passed the vote within Tuweni
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