Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread Alex Karasulu
On 4/9/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP ... ASF members -do- have additional insights from private forums, and the ability to oversee most of the private forums at the ASF. This means they can (and do) go back to the archives to look back at how a specific issue (people

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-04-10 Thread Brian McCallister
On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: If someone can step up to help OpenJPA I will trade off :-) I haven't been a fantastic mentor for OpenJPA, anyway :-( (Not trying to ditch OpenJPA, just trying to open up options :-) -Brian

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-04-10 Thread Brian McCallister
If someone can step up to help OpenJPA I will trade off :-) I haven't been a fantastic mentor for OpenJPA, anyway :-( -Brian On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I am informed that QPid has two Mentors. Would someone please volunteer to act as a third? QPid is an technology

Re: [VOTE] [Retry] Approve the release of Apache Lucene.Net 2.0 build 004 incubating

2007-04-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Personally, I think the project is suffering from a chicken-egg problem. > Without releases no users, without users no developers, without developers no > releases. > Somehow it also feels to me that either dotNet has no credibility at ASF, or > that ASF has no credibi

RE: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
And I'm told that CXF would like another mentor or two. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] [Retry] Approve the release of Apache Lucene.Net 2.0 build 004 incubating

2007-04-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 10:54, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Personally, I think the project is suffering from a chicken-egg problem. > Without releases no users, without users no developers, without developers > no releases. I also think that the advice recently given to FtpServer project (also a s

Re: [VOTE] [Retry] Approve the release of Apache Lucene.Net 2.0 build 004 incubating

2007-04-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 08:41, George Aroush wrote: > Hi folks, > > Please jump in and vote on this release. It has been well > over 4 weeks since my original submission. What will it take > to get this vote moving? Is there anything more that I need to do?! Personally, I think the project i

WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I am informed that QPid has two Mentors. Would someone please volunteer to act as a third? QPid is an technology in the MQ/JMS messaging problem domain, seeking to provide a vendor neutral protocol for interoperable messaging. --- Noel -

RE: Mentors and members

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Someone is nominated the iPMC as an active, involved contributor. No one needs to be on the Incubator PMC because they are an active contributor. They should be on the Incubator PMC because they care about Incubation, and Mentoring one or more projects. > Bottom

RE: Adding new committers process

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Cliff Schmidt wrote: > 1. Only IPMC members (e.g. mentors) should send root requests for new >podling committers. > 2. A podling committer vote requires three IPMC +1s to be approved > (ideally the mentors, assuming the project still has three mentors). > This [is] not how I read what we ha

RE: [VOTE] [Retry] Approve the release of Apache Lucene.Net 2.0 build 004 incubating

2007-04-10 Thread George Aroush
Hi folks, Please jump in and vote on this release. It has been well over 4 weeks since my original submission. What will it take to get this vote moving? Is there anything more that I need to do?! Thanks! -- George Aroush > -Original Message- > From: George Aroush [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/10/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: looks good (niclas has already discussed Wicket vs Apache Wicket) Ok, thanks for the feedback. In a couple of days I'll be able to cut a new release (we're renaming everything to org.apache.wicket currently, and that is of course not

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/10/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/8/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MANIFESTs are a little controversial (there are multiple specs which > are open to interpretation). i'm of the maximal school of thought: > putting everything in which people thin

Re: Adding new committers process

2007-04-10 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 4/6/07, Martin Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I think that has cleared things up a bit for me I'll send out these requests that I've been sitting on for a few weeks now as we need to get the accounts set up for our new committers. Just as it appeared this subject was cleared up, Noel

Re: [RESULT] Add Rupert Smith as a Qpid Committer

2007-04-10 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 3/15/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, This vote closed on Tuesday night and the result is as follows: Votes Cast: 9+ 0- Thus, Rupert Smith should now be created as a committer on the Qpid project. Although this vote closed several weeks ago, I'm adding my +1 as the me

Re: [RESULT] Add Kevin Smith as a Qpid Committer

2007-04-10 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 3/15/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, This vote closed on Tuesday night and the result is as follows: Votes Cast: 6+ 0- Thus, Kevin Smith should now be created as a committer on the Qpid project. Although this vote closed several weeks ago, I'm adding my +1 as the men

Re: [RESULT] Add Tomas Restrepo as a Qpid Committer

2007-04-10 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 3/15/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, This vote closed on Tuesday night and the result is as follows: Votes Cast: 9+ 0- Thus, Tomas Restrepo should now be created as a committer on the Qpid project. Although this vote closed several weeks ago, I'm adding my +1 as one

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: > On 4/9/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> But there is nothing stopping individuals from becoming a contributor. >> I guess my point is that mentorship isn't a privilege, and shouldn't be >> viewed as a feather in one's cap. We need active mentors, not th

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Craig L Russell wrote: > I'm confused. The Process Description [1] seems to be clear: > > The Mentor is automatically made a member of the Incubator PMC, and > reports to both the PMC and the Sponsor about your overall health and > suitability for eventual inclusion within the Apache Community (or

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread Craig L Russell
I'm confused. The Process Description [1] seems to be clear: The Mentor is automatically made a member of the Incubator PMC, and reports to both the PMC and the Sponsor about your overall health and suitability for eventual inclusion within the Apache Community (or recommendation to termina

RE: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Ted Husted wrote: > > In most cases, the underlying issue would be timing. We accept > > podlings and mentors year round. ASF Members we accept only > > once or twice a year. > I'd agree with you if I perceived Mentorship as a privilege. That seems irrelevant to Ted

RE: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Husted wrote: > As I understand it, once the proposal is accepted, the Mentors listed > on the proposal become IPMC members. Once the proposal is accepted, > and the group becomes a podling, then, yes, all Mentors and IPMC > Members. The Mentors being listed is interesting, but we had better

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/10/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 17:50, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Specification-Title: Wicket > Implementation-Title: Wicket Not sure if it matters much, but your will be known as Apache Wicket to safe-guard against trademark protection and similar i

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 17:50, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Specification-Title: Wicket > Implementation-Title: Wicket Not sure if it matters much, but your will be known as Apache Wicket to safe-guard against trademark protection and similar issues. Cheers Niclas

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/9/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd agree with you if I perceived Mentorship as a privilege. I don't, I view it entirely as a responsibility to convey "What is Apache" to an aspiring podling. I don't disagree that any of our iPMC members (members of any PMC at the fou

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/8/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MANIFESTs are a little controversial (there are multiple specs which are open to interpretation). i'm of the maximal school of thought: putting everything in which people think are required stops sniping. I have updated our build, and