RE: WANTED: mailing list moderator

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
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RE: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Mark Little wrote: > So let's try to take this to some "logical" conclusion: you're saying > that just because person A says something that person B disagrees > with, person B should then accept that because person A is somehow > more experienced? No and hell no. "Because I said so" doesn't cut i

RE: Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martijn Dashorst wrote: > List of things to pack for ApacheCon :-) I'd previously suggested (with an fresh message topic, even) a meeting at ApacheCon Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but no one replied. I'm still game for an Incubation meeting with whomever wants to gather. --- Noe

RE: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo Simons wrote: > Rest assured, the whole CXF thread doesn't apply to projects like > Wicket. Where wicket was a solid open source community already +1 I normally would post a "me, too" e-mail like this, but I do want to reassure the Wicket folks! --- Noel -

RE: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > Martijn Dashorst wrote: > > From the documents I have read on the policy for entering, being > > inside and graduating from the incubator there is a lot of talk on > > process, but not a lot of explanation on *why* the process is in > > place, nor on how things are do

RE: Re: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Cliff Schmidt wrote: > What I believe we've found works best over the years is to consider > the entire behavior of the project over its incubation and raise > questions about any trends pushing it in the wrong direction. I agree. It is about people making decisions, not rules making decisions f

RE: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > This has been a long thread to go thru for someone absent for a while. ROFLMAO. This has been an even longer thread for those who haven't been absent! :-) > If the Proposer controls the Proposal (and not stick it on a freely editable > Wiki), then isn't it very straight

RE: [VOTE] Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > For the record, I disagree with Noel that only PMC > members (and I use the term advisedly) which term? > have binding votes. My belief is that only PPMC members have > binding votes, and that all committers should automatically > be on the PPMC. Those are two s

RE: [VOTE] Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Roy T. Fielding wrote: >>> The only question is what authority is granted to the PPMC by the >>> Incubator, and every podling since Geronimo has acted according to >>> the policy that all decisions are made by the PPMC with a minimal >>> quorum of

Re: Austin

2006-10-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On October 4, 2006 8:05:17 AM +0100 david reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Feathercast is hoping to do an episode about the incubator, and for that we'd like to talk to one or more projects that are undergoing incubation. The idea is to get their story and their experiences (good and bad) to tr

Re: Re: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On October 6, 2006 5:38:37 AM -0700 Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish we could just have an objective list of numerical requirements, but I think it has to come down to the judgement of the Incubator PMC members. Umm, we do. At least 3 legally independent (and active) committ

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-07 Thread Mark Little
I find that you only suffer a hangover if you actually sober up. There's a simple solution to that ;-) Mark. On 7 Oct 2006, at 10:46, Martijn Dashorst wrote: List of things to pack for ApacheCon: - some eggs - tomato juice - asperine and - vitamine C pills... With all the beer going back a

Re: Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
List of things to pack for ApacheCon: - some eggs - tomato juice - asperine and - vitamine C pills... With all the beer going back and forth, until the full beer dept is paid off, you're bound for some serious hangover. I'm sorry I can't be a witness for this event :) I agree with many that this

Re: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/3/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From the documents I have read on the policy for entering, being inside and graduating from the incubator there is a lot of talk on process, but not a lot of explanation on *why* the process is in place, nor on how things are done. one of

Re: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 6, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Steve Vinoski wrote: Sorry, Leo, but I don't see the point of your message below making statements about CXF that are wholly untrue. The point was to provide some insight into the differences between different projects under incubation and how that leads to a dif