Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-17 Thread James Strachan
BTW I CC'd the Geronimo PMC as this is an interesting dilema for the Geronimo folks too On 3/17/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:10:50PM +, James Strachan wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So we could include the in

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials

2006-03-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 18 March 2006 01:36, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > I am quite new at Apache, but from my understanding, the incubation > process as nothing to do with the quality of the releases the > incubated project produces. It has mainly to do with the ASF > endorsing the project (though I do not ha

Re: SVN Write Access for New Committers

2006-03-17 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andy Clark wrote: > The initial committer list for the Kabuki incubator > project now has their logins but don't have write > access to the kabuki repository. I've been looking > around on the website and various SVN modules for > information but don't know where to look to see > what access commit

SVN Write Access for New Committers

2006-03-17 Thread Andy Clark
The initial committer list for the Kabuki incubator project now has their logins but don't have write access to the kabuki repository. I've been looking around on the website and various SVN modules for information but don't know where to look to see what access committers have and how that gets c

BusinessWeek article on open-source business

2006-03-17 Thread Enrique Rodriguez
Graph from this week's Economist: http://www.economist.com/images/20060318/CSF427.gif Full story: http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5624944 Enrique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For add

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-17 Thread David Blevins
There are some good ideas in here. Though I don't see Alan complaining. I do see that Alan did compiled a list (STATUS file), pointed to it, and sent the list out to people asking for feedback and discussion. Seems like a positive start. -David On Mar 17, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Leo Simons wrote

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials

2006-03-17 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Leo Simons wrote: The policy is (supposed to be) a codification of that general rule. Using keywords such as "alpha", "beta", "milestone", "release candidate" and the like is another way that we tend to use to accomplish the same thing -- get people to test drive our stuff but only deploy in

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
Alan, Incubation is something incubating communities have to do, and something incubating communities are responsible for. Those communities get some help and guidance from their mentors and the people on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, but never enough since most of those people are volunteer

Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:10:50PM +, James Strachan wrote: > On 3/16/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we could include the incubating ActiveMQ code inside an actual production > Geronimo release - provided the ActiveMQ jars keep (their current name) of > incubator-activemq.

PMC composition, inactivity, policy (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
Can people *please* get into the habit of changing subject lines to match subject matter around here? Thanks! On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:03:27AM -0800, Henri Yandell wrote: Alan wrote: > > Not providing commit karma seems to be a bit like forced retirement > > because of inactivity. Something tha

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 3/17/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > remember committing stuff is not the only way to be a > participant. I'm always scared of these kinds of metrics -- > people tend to abuse them (not saying you are). As an example I > have not committed a single line of code to harmony but I think

Re: Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:10:32AM -0800, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > I'm curious, how does one get into the Incubator PMC? You ask for it, or people ask you. * If you're an ASF member and you step up to mentor a new project, Noel (VP) tells you this means you should subscribe to the incubator PMC m

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
Dims, remember committing stuff is not the only way to be a participant. I'm always scared of these kinds of metrics -- people tend to abuse them (not saying you are). As an example I have not committed a single line of code to harmony but I think most people would agree I am an active part of its

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-17 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Who calls the vote? I'd be happy to do it but don't want to be presumptious :) Noel J. Bergman wrote: The conversation on OpenJPA has been quiet for about a week Reminder for those who want to review: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200603.mbox/%3c7D [EMAIL PROTECT