Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-29 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ted Leung wrote: -1 I am surprised that people think the committer diversity issues are not an issue for graduation. Actually, I agree with you, and others have expressed the same concern, although without casting a vote. Adding new Committers i

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Leung wrote: > -1 > I am surprised that people think the committer diversity > issues are not an issue for graduation. Actually, I agree with you, and others have expressed the same concern, although without casting a vote. Adding new Committers is probably the #1 issue facing the Derby pro

Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Er, just a vote -- there is no veto for this type of decision. Actually, althought it has never been necessary to address so far, I do recall discussion of a -1 veto option graduation. Yes, it is a policy decision, but it effects importing code under the auspices of the

RE: Prepping for Derby graduation vote

2005-03-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Cliff Schmidt wrote: > the committer diversity issue has been raised as an issue by > at least a couple folks. While it looks like they meet the > requirement to have committers from at least three independent > organizations (I believe Noel and Jeremy are the two who are > independent from IBM)

RE: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted, Thanks for the follow-up. Sounds as if there isn't as much of an opportunity for a close connection as I'd thought. Best of luck, and congrats. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-29 Thread Ted Leung
-1 I am surprised that people think the committer diversity issues are not an issue for graduation. As far as I can tell, the distribution of committers in Derby is worse than either Xerces-J, or Xalan-J both of which have been viewed negatively because of the number of committers from a single

Re: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
+1 I'd be happier to see it in DB as I think that can help build a strong community there, but it's up to iBATIS peeps... I think we're going to regret the large number of islands we're creating. geir On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:51 AM, Ted Husted wrote: The iBATIS team has worked through the incubati

Newbie question; how to start a project

2005-03-29 Thread Oscar van Eijk
Hi All, I'm not sure this is the correct place for asking this question, but I've got to start somewhere. For a few years I'm walking around with ideas to create a new email standard, one that would make spam virtually impossible. The idea is very simple, and technically it's not a real proble

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
+1 now that Jeremy has addressed Roy's concerns. On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- As mentor, I feel comfortable proposing that Derby graduate from the incubator and take up its place in the DB project. So I'd like to start a formal vote

Re: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-29 Thread Brian McCallister
I've not been following the iBatis incubation closely (as they expressed a preference to not go under DB, and, while I quite like iBatis, only have so much time) but if they have a range of sub-projects already, and a sufficient developer community, a TLP makes sense from my perspective. I thi

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Sorry, I'd like to vote for this, but someone was being cute > and removed a lot of relevant questions from the template at > >http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html Actually, I don't think the above is the case at all; th

Re: Question about Hermes

2005-03-29 Thread Jim Seach
Thanks! I did try to check the -dev list, but couldn't find the archives, sorry. When I re-posted the question to -dev as Noel suggested, Salvatore explained the situation. I figured you were aware of the issue and dealing with it, but just wanted to bring it to your attention just in case. --

Re: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP

2005-03-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:41:18 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ted, > > It seems appropriate to graduate, but should iBATIS be a TLP, or go under > db.apache.org, along with Derby and related Jakarta Commons code that has > been moving, in your opinion? > >         --- Noel We di