Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:41 PM, Uijin Hong (홍의진) wrote: I hope to see Agila(or Apache-BPM-engine) could run both BPEL and WS-CDL. +1! -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsub

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread 홍의진
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:20:09 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I think there's room in the WS project for an effort > focused purely on implementing BPEL. BPEL is a key component of > the WS-* stack and I for one would be happy to see a pure BPEL > effort in Apache

Re: Apache Agila Project

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to receive information about how could I get involved to this project development. Could you please share with me the contacts of people involved directly with this project so I could talk and offer my help to them? The best pla

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The goal is to do BPM, not specifically BPEL. BPEL support is certainly welcome, but should be a part of the overall project, not the dominant focus. There's more to BPM than BPEL :) Absolutel

Apache Agila Project

2004-10-21 Thread talk900hz-agila
Hi, I would like to receive information about how could I get involved to this project development. Could you please share with me the contacts of people involved directly with this project so I could talk and offer my help to them? respectfully yours, Fernando Tavares _

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
"Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The goal is to do BPM, not specifically BPEL. BPEL support is > certainly welcome, but should be a part of the overall project, not the > dominant focus. There's more to BPM than BPEL :) Absolutely :). However, I think there's room in the WS

Re: OT: Nagoya not responding

2004-10-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Davanum Srinivas wrote: next time, please report to infrastructure AT apache.org :) Why should I, if you do the job so well? :-) (Thanks!) -- http://lilypie.com/baby1/050423/1/5/1/+1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: OT: Nagoya not responding

2004-10-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
next time, please report to infrastructure AT apache.org :) -- dims On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:34:27 +0200, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I would typically report this in Jira. However, for obvious reasons, I > can't: Some services on nagoya.apache.org (in particular Jira)

OT: Nagoya not responding

2004-10-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I would typically report this in Jira. However, for obvious reasons, I can't: Some services on nagoya.apache.org (in particular Jira) is currently not responding. AFAIK, some people of the infrastructure team or at least some people with sufficient privileges are reading this list. The erro

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: I proposed to combine Twister into Agila to avoid overlapping. I thought the main goal of Agila was to develop a BPEL engine. Now if you think it's more appropriate, I wouldn't mind contributing Twister as itself. The goal is to do BPM, not specifi

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that code with Apache Agila ? No, unless it's relicensed. geir Andreas - Original Message - From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Se

RE: LGPL / Apache

2004-10-21 Thread J Aaron Farr
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Kuckartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > Subject: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache > Agila) > > I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it poss

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
Twister's LGPL license would be changed to the Apache license anyway. I made sure all contributors agree with this already. On 21 Oct 2004 20:43:59 +0200, Andreas Kuckartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that > code with Apach

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread thorsten
El jue, 21-10-2004 a las 20:43, Andreas Kuckartz escribió: > I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that > code with Apache Agila ? > AFAIK yes. thorsten > Andreas > > - Original Message - > From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
I proposed to combine Twister into Agila to avoid overlapping. I thought the main goal of Agila was to develop a BPEL engine. Now if you think it's more appropriate, I wouldn't mind contributing Twister as itself. A workflow engine and a web service orchestration engine have a bit of overlap but a

LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that code with Apache Agila ? Andreas - Original Message - From: "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine an

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread 홍의진
Here is another '+1' for having a BPEL engine inside Apache domain. BTW, is it legitimately possible to combine Twister(which is not proposed and review by Apache PMC) into Agila? How about proposing contribution of Twsiter as itself? On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:24:23 -0500, Aleksander Slominski <[EMAI

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-21 Thread hammett
Its the same thing. I (and my fellas) can't use the Avalon infrastructure to start working the proposal for obvious reasons. I was hoping that this infrastructure was provided by ASF. They wont. I have to find somewhere else. That's it. Cheers, hammett - Original Message - From: "Niclas

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-21 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 22 October 2004 01:46, hammett wrote: > Ok. In the meantime I'll start transfering everything from Avalon > respositories to Sourceforge. Hope you don't have anything against that > too. Curious; Does C#/dotNet have the package namespace concept similar to Java, or is it a free-for-all

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-21 Thread hammett
- Original Message - From: "Roy T.Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle Sorry, but I have nothing positive to say about containers in terms of engendering useful communities, let alone CLI

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-21 Thread J Aaron Farr
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: Can someone expand CLI for me? Somehow I don't think it stands for command line interpreter .. :). Common Language Infrastructure. The part of .NET that allows the use of multiple programming languages to run within the virtual machine. Mono has its own implementation o

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-21 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Can someone expand CLI for me? Somehow I don't think it stands for command line interpreter .. :). Sanjiva. - Original Message - From: "Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle > > Ple

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
I think that I have to agree with Sanjiva, a BPEL engine has to be pretty tightly integrated with the web service layer. Mechanisms like correlation and assignment force you to handle XML messages and data at the lowest levels of implementation. In short a correlation in BPEL is a unique way to id