Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/17 Stephen Ecob : > If you're willing to help then please check out the shop and let me > know if there's anything amiss - would you consider buying the > product, or is there something in the site that would deter you ? From a perspective of Firefox user browsing with disabled JavaScript:

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/18 Andrew Poelstra : > Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Looks good. It resembles GtkTreeView and that raises a question - will it still be possible to toggle visibility without changing the active layer (moving the select

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Andrew and all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Poelstra > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:52 AM > To: k...@familieknaak.de; gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Layer button ba

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Andrew and all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Poelstra > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:02 AM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds > > On Thu,

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Felix Ruoff
Am 18.08.2011 09:52, schrieb Andrew Poelstra: Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Very good! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Stephen Ecob
Hi Andy, On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Andy Fierman wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > FWIW, > > It's not clear to me if the prices shown are in $AU or $US and the > option to select one or the other doesn't appear to change the prices > shown on the products or in the cart. Which browser and OS are yo

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> I think the concept of import/exporting into a spreadsheet program > is an approach worthy of consideration as well. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/sch2csv http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/csv2sch ___ geda-user mail

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Matthew Sager
Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: [1]http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png I like this one also. It seems compact and easy to understand. Matthew -- My homepage. [2]http://sites.google.com/site/matthewsager/home References 1. http://wpsoftwa

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread John Hudak
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak <[1]k...@familieknaak.de> wrote: Andy Fierman wrote: > I don't know if that bug report can still be accessed since the > SourceForge Tracker had been disabled: > > [2]https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=818426&

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Steven Michalske wrote: >> http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png >> > > I really like this one.  Bonus points for setting layer color by clicking on > the colored rectangle. Er, maybe shift-click for that. I would have assumed that clicking would toggle

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Steven Michalske
On Aug 18, 2011, at 12:52 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:08:34AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> >> This advantage wears off as the user uses the feature more often. >> Using layers is very basic to PCB. Typical use switches layers >> very often in a session. Becaus

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:08:34AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > This advantage wears off as the user uses the feature more often. > Using layers is very basic to PCB. Typical use switches layers > very often in a session. Because of this, long term aspects become > more important, like eff

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Default ksymbols look like a good idea to me. So good, that I comitted > a feature request at launchpad: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/828388 > s/ksymbols/footprints/ ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > I think such a thing would look like: > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png > > What do people think of this? Invisibility by greyed out buttons is much more easily grasped on a glance than presence or abcense of an eye icon. I'd prefer to not have eye icons

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:01:30 -0700 Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 07:31:24AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: > > > Good point.  I do like the full color fill you show, Andrew. > > >  However, I think we need a better way of indicating which layers > > > are visible. Perhaps a little

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andy Fierman wrote: > I don't know if that bug report can still be accessed since the > SourceForge Tracker had been disabled: > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=818426&aid=2793743&group_id=161080 All bugs have been imported to launchpad. This particular report got number #69

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: > PCB doesn't "throw away" - but it doesn't have a visible placeholder > for missing footprints. Default ksymbols look like a good idea to me. So good, that I comitted a feature request at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/828388 ---<)kaimartin(>--- --

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: > Photoshop (and also GIMP) use a small on/off icon that looks like an > eye to control layer visibility. In gimp, this is inside a dedicated layer dialog, not in a side bar. > This may or may not be a good way to > do it, but it is certainly a familiar UI to many people. T

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread John Hudak
However you change the buttons, please ensure that it is VERY obvious what selection is made/mode it is currently in. I've seen far to many sw products where pushing a button to engage some action or select a mode failed to notify the user (either noticeable visual change, audio sou

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 07:31:24AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: > > Good point.  I do like the full color fill you show, Andrew.  However, > > I think we need a better way of indicating which layers are visible. > > Perhaps a little "X" or checkbox icon on the button?  I already dislike > > the curre

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 01:14:46PM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:48:48 +0200 > Felix Ruoff wrote: > > > I personally like the new style you created. Its very nice! I think > > the reason for adding this small rectangles is, that its easier to > > see, if the button is pre

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Stephen Ecob
> Good point.  I do like the full color fill you show, Andrew.  However, > I think we need a better way of indicating which layers are visible. > Perhaps a little "X" or checkbox icon on the button?  I already dislike > the current buttons' indication of which layers are visible (change of > fill c

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-17 Thread Stephen Ecob
> But when I import a schematic into pcb it "seems" to throw away anything > that has an unknown footprint > Is this just the way pcb works or am I missing something PCB doesn't "throw away" - but it doesn't have a visible placeholder for missing footprints. It helps to have the "Message Log" wind

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:48:48 +0200 Felix Ruoff wrote: > I personally like the new style you created. Its very nice! I think > the reason for adding this small rectangles is, that its easier to > see, if the button is pressed. Good point. I do like the full color fill you show, Andrew. However,

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Felix Ruoff
I personally like the new style you created. Its very nice! I think the reason for adding this small rectangles is, that its easier to see, if the button is pressed. Am 18.08.2011 04:00, schrieb Andrew Poelstra: Hey all, I am working on moving the Gtk layer-selector into its own widget (see

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread DJ Delorie
The lesstif layer buttons are solid like you propose too ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Steven Michalske
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > Hey all, > > I am working on moving the Gtk layer-selector into its > own widget (see bug 699482, for example), and cleaning > up the code. > > A question I have for the group is: why are the backgrounds > of the layer buttons in little r

gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Hey all, I am working on moving the Gtk layer-selector into its own widget (see bug 699482, for example), and cleaning up the code. A question I have for the group is: why are the backgrounds of the layer buttons in little rectangles? Is there opposition to making the background fill the whole b

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread John Hudak
oh, and I should probably add this: Ubuntu 10.10, Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010 Running under Virtual Box: 4.0.4 r70112 J On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, John Hudak <[1]jjhu...@gmail.com> wrote: oops, I forgot that in my original post: gEDA : GPL Elect

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread John Hudak
oops, I forgot that in my original post: gEDA : GPL Electronic Design Automation This is gattrib -- gEDA's attribute editor Gattrib version: 1.6.1.20100214 -J On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andy Fierman <[1]andyfier...@signality.co.uk> wrote: What version of gattrib a

Re: gEDA-user: Nanometer conversion pushed to git head

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:11:13 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > EVERY time I draw a new footprint, I spend half the time figuring > > out where the “imaginary” line endpoint should lie. > > I just use the rectangle tool. Oh! I forgot you can use the rectangle tool to make pads too. That could be

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
What version of gattrib are you using? I opened a bug report on SourceForge about what seems to be the same problem back in 2009: Bugs item #2793743, was opened at 2009-05-19 11:18 The version of gattrib I was using then was 1.4.0.20080127 from the Debian lenny repos. I don't know if that bug r

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Павел Таранов
You could find usefull make file mentioned here: http://www.seul.org/pipermail/geda-user/2011-July/054930.html It is allow to get BOM just running: make schema_bom Regards, Pavlo 2011/8/17 Andy Fierman : > Hi John, > > Sounds like you've not yet found this: > > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:fa

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-17 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:46 -0500 (CDT) kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am sure this has been done to death but I have to ask I am a beginner and the way I am using gschem and pcb is quite awkward I open my schematic in gschem and open pcb Then when I

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi John, Sounds like you've not yet found this: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gnetlist I know, "netlist" isn't necessarily the first search term that comes to mind when looking for info on how to generate a BoM ... See also: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-attribs Cheers,          An

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Dave McGuire
On 08/16/2011 08:32 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but I can't think of a better place to ask for help. I've recently set up a web shop to sell Xilinx FPGA development boards: www.sioi.com.au Yes, the PCBs were all designed with gEDA :-) The server is here in Australia, and I

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Dave McGuire
On 08/16/2011 11:03 PM, Josh Jordan wrote: Sites that load that slow are usually not from bad ping, which is only 250ms from texas. I think you could be using up your server resources. Sorry if you know this already, try commands "df" to show disk space and "free -m" to show

gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread John Hudak
Perhaps I have not progress through the development cycle far enough, but, it there a way generate a bill of materials (BoM) from gschem and/or PCB? In my readings I have not come across reference to BoMs. I am thinking that one could be made by specifying the BoM headings of intere

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Stephen, FWIW, It's not clear to me if the prices shown are in $AU or $US and the option to select one or the other doesn't appear to change the prices shown on the products or in the cart. I'm in the UK on a fairly throttled broadband connection and the pictures took some seconds to load. Ho