gEDA-user: pcb newlib packages

2006-08-02 Thread George M. Gallant, Jr.
I have been playing with creating footprints to help automate the interaction of gschem and pcb. So far I have been able to assign value attributes in gschem, create a project file, and generate a pcb from gschem2pcb. Once in pcb all the elements are pack in to top left. Disperse, optimize rat

gEDA-user: Install CD and failed gspiceui install.

2006-08-02 Thread Dion
Hi, Having seen the recent traffic on the list regarding the new installer, I thought I'd give it a try. This is a very nice installer, I wish all installers were so informative about their behaviour. Great work and many thanks Stuart. I did however encounter a small problem. The installer

Re: gEDA-user: Part spec attributes

2006-08-02 Thread John Luciani
On 8/2/06, John Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any common practice for part specs other than value, like working voltage, tolerance, max dissipation, etc? Practice for consistent attribute specification names or for populating specification attributes? I have not had to populate a sc

Re: gEDA-user: Proposed text for gEDA download page

2006-08-02 Thread John Sheahan
kmk wrote: The page might point exlicitly to distributions that need no download at all because they natively include the geda tools. It should mention, that the distribution may not feature the most recent version, but it will reduce installation pains (to zero). At the moment this is true for

Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation

2006-08-02 Thread John Sheahan
Günter Dannoritzer wrote: Hi, Is anybody using Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation? I have had better success with gplcver for this phase. At least in 0.8x specify block support in icarus seems unusual. john Is there a way to compile the SIMPRIM library from Xilinx into a library

gEDA-user: Re: Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation

2006-08-02 Thread Stephen Williams
Günter Dannoritzer wrote: > Hi, > > Is anybody using Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation? Yes, me, to a degree. > Is there a way to compile the SIMPRIM library from Xilinx into a library > file or does that need to be compiled every time again from scratch when > running the compilation?

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> Tragessym, briefly. djboxsym not yet. But I insist on understanding the > nuts and bolts before I belly-flop on automation. Both of the above are just shortcuts to manually creating dozens or hundreds of pins; they shortcut the GUI but not the need to know what you're doing. At least check ou

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: Have you looked at tragesym or djboxsym for creating these symbols? Tragessym, briefly. djboxsym not yet. But I insist on understanding the nuts and bolts before I belly-flop on automation. Thanks for all the help, I know what to do now. -dave

gEDA-user: Part spec attributes

2006-08-02 Thread John Doty
Is there any common practice for part specs other than value, like working voltage, tolerance, max dissipation, etc? John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul

Re: gEDA-user: Installation problem wxGtk

2006-08-02 Thread watashi_metan
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:10:08 -0400, "Patrick Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I've downloaded the ISO from gEDA official site and started installer > > --log from CD-ROM but it says I need wxGtk. > > I've tried > > rpm -q

gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation

2006-08-02 Thread Günter Dannoritzer
Hi, Is anybody using Icarus Verilog for post synthesis simulation? Is there a way to compile the SIMPRIM library from Xilinx into a library file or does that need to be compiled every time again from scratch when running the compilation? Also, does the iSDF plugin support all the primitives gene

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> You may want to specify lowercase. If someone configures their > database for case sensitive and uses the attribute name as a column > name they could get an error. Ok. > You could still treat names as case insensitive for your webserver. It does, I was thinking that the column names end up a

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread John Luciani
On 8/2/06, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using the following attributes for building BOMs and orders --- > > manufacturer > manufacturer_part_number > vendor > vendor_part_number > > all lower case with underscores replacing spaces. I changed my recommendations to

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> Going back to my example, on the ATMega88, pin 1 of the PDIP package > is -RESET, while pin 1 of the TQFP and MLF packages is an I/O named > PD3. I keep thinking that there is a file someplace that maps > schematic pin names to footprint pin numbers -- Nope. Schematic pin numbers *are* footpr

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: >> Yes, I get that. I asked my question poorly. There is an attribute in the symbol that points to the correct pin mapping. I get the concept, but I don't know where all the ascii lives, and how it should be split up across various files. > > Ah. Set the "footprint" attribu

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> I have been using the following attributes for building BOMs and orders --- > > manufacturer > manufacturer_part_number > vendor > vendor_part_number > > all lower case with underscores replacing spaces. I changed my recommendations to match yours, although I specified "case insensiti

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> hmmm... so I guess there is no way to get a default tie-off? If you mean, like pullup resistors or grounding, no. If you need resistors, you need to put them in the schematic. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread John Luciani
On 8/2/06, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For BOMs I create attributes called "manufacturer" and > "manufacturer_part_number". If you need to change part numbers > edit the "manufacturer_part_number" attribute. I started "standardizing" some of these attributes, when used to map schema

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: If you don't reference the pins, the netlister just omits them. hmmm... so I guess there is no way to get a default tie-off? That's not my question -- this is the flip side of "same symbol with multiple footprints". This is different BOM callout, but same footprint an

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> For BOMs I create attributes called "manufacturer" and > "manufacturer_part_number". If you need to change part numbers > edit the "manufacturer_part_number" attribute. I started "standardizing" some of these attributes, when used to map schematics to boards, here: http://www.gedasy

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> Yes, I get that. I asked my question poorly. There is an attribute in > the symbol that points to the correct pin mapping. I get the concept, > but I don't know where all the ascii lives, and how it should be split > up across various files. Ah. Set the "footprint" attribute to be the name

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread John Luciani
On 8/2/06, Dave N6NZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the case of the ATMega88, the TQFP-32 version of the part brings out more I/O than the PDIP-28 version. Soo... choices. 1) Define all the pins, but don't map them to PDIP-28? Will net lister issue warnings? 2) different symbol? Icky, because yo

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: Given a part with two or more packages, how should the footprint mapping be defined in the symbol? It's not, it's added later through, for example, gattrib. Yes, I get that. I asked my question poorly. There is an attribute in the symbol that points to the correct pin map

gEDA-user: gerbv, 1.0.2

2006-08-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
Stefan Petersen wrote: > This is to announce the third release in the stable branch of > gerbv, 1.0.2. Works fine on 64 bit AMD64 (Gentoo-Linux), while previous version draws gerber files not correct with gtk2. Thanks Stefan Salewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/gv/gerbv-1.0.2/src $ ldd ./gerbv

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> Given a part with two or more packages, how should the footprint > mapping be defined in the symbol? It's not, it's added later through, for example, gattrib. > In the case of the ATMega88, the TQFP-32 version of the part brings > out more I/O than the PDIP-28 version. Soo... choices. 1) Defin

gEDA-user: Multiple footprint methodology?

2006-08-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
Hello, Total gEDA noobie here, but my first encounter with EDA workstations was about 1983, so I know the vocabulary and the work flow. But I have a long learning curve to climb in terms of "how gEDA does it". This is probably a FAQ, but after searching the archives I couldn't see anythi

Re: gEDA-user: Installation problem wxGtk

2006-08-02 Thread Stuart Brorson
Please don't use the installer on the main gEDA download page. It is old, and needs replacement. Please use the install CD available from my website here: http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/ Stuart On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone! I've downloaded the ISO from gEDA officia

Re: gEDA-user: Proposed text for gEDA download page

2006-08-02 Thread kmk
Stuart Brorson wrote: > http://www.brorson.com/download.html The page might point exlicitly to distributions that need no download at all because they natively include the geda tools. It should mention, that the distribution may not feature the most recent version, but it will reduce installation

Re: gEDA-user: Installation problem wxGtk

2006-08-02 Thread Patrick Doyle
On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone! I've downloaded the ISO from gEDA official site and started installer --log from CD-ROM but it says I need wxGtk. I've tried rpm -qa | grep wx and I can see that wxGTK 2.6 is present on my SuSE 10.1. If I try to install wxGtk as

gEDA-user: Installation problem wxGtk

2006-08-02 Thread mailing
Hi everyone! I've downloaded the ISO from gEDA official site and started installer --log from CD-ROM but it says I need wxGtk. I've tried rpm -qa | grep wx and I can see that wxGTK 2.6 is present on my SuSE 10.1. If I try to install wxGtk as installation process says it stops and I cannot understan

Re: gEDA-user: Patch to utils/src/convert_sym.c

2006-08-02 Thread Mike Jarabek
Hi, Patrick Doyle wrote: Attached (perhaps) is a trivial patch to convert_sym.c to enable it to handle viewlogic schematics with pins marked as "PWR". I applied the patch to CVS. This did not appear to be a major change, and fixed a bug. Thanks. Mike -- -

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Random Segmentation Fault - Autosave

2006-08-02 Thread Patrick Doyle
On 8/1/06, User Tomdean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More random segment faults. Gdb points to autosave(). This seems to happen more often when I have (component-library "/usr/home/tomdean/cad/sym") in ~/.geda/gafrc Any ideas? tomdean I had the same problem, was pointed at autosave as being

gEDA-user: Patch to utils/src/convert_sym.c

2006-08-02 Thread Patrick Doyle
Attached (perhaps) is a trivial patch to convert_sym.c to enable it to handle viewlogic schematics with pins marked as "PWR". I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I can't help making a plug here. This is why I prefer open source software over close source software. I decided to evaluate the gE

gEDA-user: Proposed text for gEDA download page

2006-08-02 Thread Stuart Brorson
Ales, guys, In light of the ongoing discussion about how to download/install gEDA, I put together a proposed download page based upon the current one. The new page carries more info (is perhaps more wordy) which will hopefully guide newbies when they decide how to install gEDA. Please take a look