Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread John Darrington
On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 06:34:12PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > What you're describing sounds like a dictatorship to me. > > I cannot see how you reach that conclusion. Having one guy at the top from whom all power flows. Power does not "flow" fro

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-07 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On April 8, 2021 1:17:53 AM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn wrote: >On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:34 AM Richard Biener via Gcc >wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc > wrote: >> > >> > On 2021-04-05 3:36 p.m., Jim Wilson wrote:> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at >6:24 PM Simon Marchi via Gc

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-04-07 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 01:59 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > Hi, apologies for the delayed reply. I was having some college > commitments. > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:22 PM David Malcolm > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 21:41 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:42 PM David M

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-07 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:34 AM Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc wrote: > > > > On 2021-04-05 3:36 p.m., Jim Wilson wrote:> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 6:24 PM > > Simon Marchi via Gcc mailto:gcc@gcc.gnu.org>> wrote: > > > > > > The default deb

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 18:24 +0200, John Darrington wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:15:14AM -0400, David Malcolm via Gcc > wrote: > > > It reflects the same message that has been sent to new GNU > > maintainers > > for the decades. The GNU structure and organization document >   

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
"We've always done it this way" is not necessarily a good defence of an existing practice. That wasn't the claim, it is how we do it currently, and have been doing for decades though. If you have concrete suggestions, please send them to the GNU Advisory Committee. >    The GNU Assemb

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On 4/7/2021 11:17 AM, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:04, David Malcolm wrote: For myself, I'm interested in copyleft low-level tools being used to build a Free Software operating system, but the "GNU" name may be permanently tarnished for me; I have no wish to be assoc

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:04, David Malcolm wrote: > For myself, I'm interested in copyleft low-level tools being used to > build a Free Software operating system, but the "GNU" name may be > permanently tarnished for me; I have no wish to be associated with a > self-appointed "chief GNUisance". I

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 17:28, John Darrington wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:15:14AM -0400, David Malcolm via Gcc wrote: > I don't think you get to speak for who is or is not a member of the GNU > project. As far as I know, "GNU" isn't trademarked. > > > It certainly used to be, un

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread John Darrington
On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:15:14AM -0400, David Malcolm via Gcc wrote: > It reflects the same message that has been sent to new GNU > maintainers > for the decades. The GNU structure and organization document > (https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-structure.en.html) is basically a

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 10:51 -0400, Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc wrote: >    [...]  That "gnu-stucture" document was written by RMS a couple of >    months ago and doesn't represent how the GNU project and its >    maintainers have worked for years. > > It reflects the same message that has been sent t

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
[...] That "gnu-stucture" document was written by RMS a couple of months ago and doesn't represent how the GNU project and its maintainers have worked for years. It reflects the same message that has been sent to new GNU maintainers for the decades. The GNU structure and organization doc

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 00:22 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > Lets change the subject now that this is about GCC and the FSF. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 01:46:29PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc > wrote: > > Probably unintentionally, but he has allowed the GNU Project to > > become > > a nas

GSoC 2021 - Bridging the gap between rustc and gccrs

2021-04-07 Thread Arthur Cohen via Gcc
Hi everyone, It is my pleasure to announce that I will be applying for the Google Summer of Code in order to work under the Rust-GCC organization. I am a french systems programming and embedded systems programming student, and love to work on anything related to the compilation or interpretation

[RISCV] RISC-V GNU Toolchain Biweekly Sync-up call (April 8, 201)

2021-04-07 Thread 吴伟
Hi all, There is the agenda for tomorrow's meeting. If you have topics to discuss or share, please let me know and I can add them to the agenda. ## Agenda: - Nelson prepares patches for integration branch, first version will include zfh 0.1, v-ext 0.10 and sifive cache operation extension https