FVWM: change in focus follow mouse 2.6.8 to 2.7.0

2025-01-29 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
I have just updated a laptop from (X)ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 and this resulted in an update of fvwm from 2.6.8 to 2.7.0 I have noticed a change of behaviour (with the same .fvwrc). I am expecting focus following mouse movement. On 2.6.8 when I move the mouse into a partially obscured window, it

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
- Are people using FVWM for its looks? (Themability) Looks/functionallity: I want the MWM look/functionallity. Yes, I too like a simple mwm-like look, but even more I like the complete and easy customizability. I think there are proofs on the net of completely different looks. AND functiona

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024, Robert Heller wrote: Afterall, no one needs more then one computer... I suppose there is a smiley missing after the sentence :-) My usual way of working (post-COVID, from home) involves usually one or two ssh sessions on two different remote work machines. Quite occasiona

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I'll be reading the libinput synaptics and synclient manpages. I've done this exercise and some tests ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Touchpadid=11 [slave p

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Mandar Mitra wrote: You mention your laptop is new, so it is likely that the touchpad supports multitouch and other goodies. yes, brand new. So the OS (Xubuntu 22.04) Synaptics driver and libinput (probably the correct, "modern" option). xinput returns among others (wh

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sun, 14 May 2023, Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) No. By default generating synthetic events is considered a security risk

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and shift-MB2 in my favourite editor (Hessling ... Editor), due to a

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, E Frank Ball wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick > copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting > with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shif

FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-13 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
I am since ages a keen fvwm user (2.6.8 bundled with ubuntu), mostly on a desktop PC, with a personal configuration described in http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/window.html. In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick copy-and-paste of text selecting it wit

Re: FVWM: sticky windows on given display

2022-04-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Brian A wrote: There must be a way to specify in .fvwm/config Start Function area the "StaysOnTop" parameter? Or Do I have to setup a separatet Style with Layers? AFAIK, or at least as I use it, StaysOnTop is defined in the Style of the widget. This is an extract of my

Re: FVWM: FvwmIconMan does not update new windows (?)

2022-01-05 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, João Oliveira wrote: I recently update to Ubuntu 20.04 and fvwm 2.6. I am quite happy but for a problem with FvwmIconMan: it does not update when new windows are opened or closed. When StartFunction is called ... I also had to use FvwmIconMan under Ubuntu 20.04, but I wa

Re: FVWM: Move windows to a new desk preserving pages

2021-03-01 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
a text editor winodw, I just make such window sticky, go to the browser desk, do the copy, go back and unstick. Screenshot and .fvwrc samples in http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/window.html -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more in

Re: FVWM: Draw text in background

2020-09-21 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
to inspire ... but expect no more support :-) Hope it helps -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html "Can you see Enrico F

Re: FVWM: Calling Old Timers! Fvwm FTP mirrors, anyone?

2020-09-02 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
amely Suse 9.2, and I always used the OS bundled binaries. My sympathy and encouragement for your "enterprise" -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~luc

Re: FVWM: FVWM on a high density screen -> FvwmForm

2020-08-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, Dan Espen wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: Yes, it's called Regina, and is required if one wants to use THE (The Hessling Editor) as editor, which is a very good Unix clone of the IBM VM/CMS XEDIT editor. I remember XEDIT, from a shop that was using CMS for a whi

Re: FVWM: FVWM on a high density screen -> FvwmForm

2020-08-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Dan Espen wrote: Yep, there is a Unix version of REXX and it's a reasonably good scripting language. Yes, it's called Regina, and is required if one wants to use THE (The Hessling Editor) as editor, which is a very good Unix clone of the IBM VM/CMS XEDIT editor. Back w

Re: FVWM: Style ... SkipMapping

2019-11-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Well, in my case it's just another page in the same desktop. I'm not sure whether or not that matters. But above of that it's perhaps time to compare Fvwm and perhaps also Firefox versions. What versions do you use on what distribution?

Re: FVWM: Style ... SkipMapping

2019-11-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
clear. It is the browser which goes straight to the desktop designated, but I remain in the primary desktop ! Which I guess is what you'd like. And what I get. If you start a program using "nohup", this command ... I knew about it but it's a long long time since I felt the

Re: FVWM: Style ... SkipMapping

2019-11-18 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
command line I replied in the previous mail -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html

Re: FVWM: Style ... SkipMapping

2019-11-18 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
e vestigial style). If you are concerned of the runtime messages the browser may issue while running (is that why you redirect stderr ?), also palemoon has that problem when started from a terminal. But I simply kill such terminal to get rid of them ! -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Co

Re: FVWM: Style ... SkipMapping

2019-11-18 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
han the page containing my terminal wind- ow. I noticed a funny behaviour sporadically when starting libreoffice (with a slow splash screen) and changing desks while it is coming up. libreoffice may come up in the wrong desktop. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 M

Re: FVWM: two questions about icons

2019-06-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ve, but fully worthwhile for me) -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html "All that is google does not glitter Nor al

Re: FVWM: FvwmForums: Change of engine and help with theming

2019-06-05 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
had to go to Github). It is a repository, or perhaps a collaborative tool for developers, but I found no satisfactory interactivity for questions users may address to developers. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http:/

Re: FVWM: two questions about icons

2019-06-05 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Grrr. I can't imagine why this would be so hard. I didn't think what I wanted to do would be so complex. Again, I just want a digital xclock to appear in the blank space below the xbiff thingy in the default theme. AFAIK there is no such thing

Re: FVWM: appearance

2019-01-03 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
a .mozilla or whatever. If you start with a fresh account and, after running an application for the first time, you see a new dot file appearing, that will be it. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://w

Re: FVWM: bookmark/unbookmark multiple windows

2018-12-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
to a selectd desk/page (or drag and drop across pages of same desk). Although I have extensive MoveToDesk MoveToPage menus, it ends that most of the cases I use the stick/unstick method. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf

Re: FVWM: [Draft] New Configuration Format

2016-09-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Thomas Adam wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:42:14PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: is <<< a perlism, or a typo for more customary << ? In shell, <<< is a here-string. I wasn't aware of the distinction between here-documents and here-s

Re: FVWM: [Draft] New Configuration Format

2016-09-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
NY occurrences which in your new scheme will use the backslash like the old AddToFunc followed by lots of + I lines ? That would be rather nice, better than the backslashes. Thanks -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via

Re: FVWM: [Draft] New Configuration Format

2016-09-21 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
that "new fvwm" is ready by then, or even second next if I change earlier :-) -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html -

Re: FVWM: FVWM Logo Competition

2016-09-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ly "maintenance". This might well be the case of other s/w like e.g. Latex2Html, who have "achieved their goals". Long live FVWM and all the rest ! -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I

Re: FVWM: Is there a way to ignore other windows when placing one?

2016-06-27 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, lee wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: Is there a difference between having N desktops and having N pages which matters for practical use? well ... a desk has a name/title, a page has not ... and one uses GoToDesk and GotoPage ... do not think there are other practical

Re: FVWM: Is there a way to ignore other windows when placing one?

2016-06-21 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ons/window.html -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not li

Re: FVWM: Survey: Are you affected by disappearing Firefox menus?

2016-03-30 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
favour of Pale Moon (see my signature) which is how Firefox used to be, and more, and has a very responsing forum and supporting community ! -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more

Re: FVWM: partial update Re: interference firefox/acroread and fvwm on suse 11.3

2010-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
! (possibly without snow) -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Italian Research at risk.La Ricerca italiana a rischio ! see http://sax.iasf-

Re: FVWM: partial update Re: interference firefox/acroread and fvwm on suse 11.3

2010-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
a simpler workaround at .fvwmrc level if this diagnosis makes sense to him ? -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Italian Research at risk.

FVWM: partial update Re: interference firefox/acroread and fvwm on suse 11.3

2010-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I am noting a funny (and sort of annoying behaviour) when using firefox and acrobat reader in a fvmw session under suse 11.3 (newly installed). Apparently also openoffice is showing the same behaviour. The topmost menu bar (File Edit ...) has

FVWM: interference firefox/acroread and fvwm on suse 11.3

2010-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
usual way. I tried editres to get the widget tree and it returns nothing. Any idea of the reason, and a possible workaround within .fvwm2rc ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (

FVWM: fvwm on suse 11.3

2010-12-13 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
to look at ? Thanks -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Italian Research at risk.La Ricerca italiana

Re: FVWM: How to find an error in a VERY HUGE config

2009-11-23 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
empts. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Citizens entrusted of public functions have the duty to accomplish them with discipline and h

FVWM: list policy ...

2009-09-25 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
h very little effort). -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Wir muessen wissen / wir werden wissen Inscriptio

mailing list archives Re: FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-11 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/9/10 Lucio Chiappetti : ... mailing list archives, but it looks like all this thread has not been archived ! http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm@fvwm.org/msg00877.html Thanks for the CORRECT pointer ... ... but why the mailing list page under

Re: FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-10 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: The solution was easy and fast enough to be tested and implemented soon. I will write a final report for the list in the next days AFTER my videoconf. I wrote my report in this page http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/SW/Laser/ I will probably

Re: FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-08 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
y and fast enough to be tested and implemented soon. I will write a final report for the list in the next days AFTER my videoconf. -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http:

Re: FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-08 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/9/7 Lucio Chiappetti : What I'd want to do is to redefine the F4 F5 F6 so that instead of issuing a Style command to a pre-existing "Laser" window, they create one, and use the rePointLaser function/event passing to it a differ

Re: FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
I made one step forward using FvwmEvent, but I'm now stuck about passing arguments to it. On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: *** now, what am I missing ? *** I'd like to find a way to create the icon straight where the mouse is currently pointed (to avoid having to &qu

FVWM: how to start iconified under mouse position

2009-09-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
" NoPPosition Style * ManualPlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage, ActivePlacementIgnoresStartsOnPage -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html

Re: FVWM: again (semi-transparent) pseudo-cursors

2009-09-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
Is dynamic changement of icon supported by fvwm ? -- ---- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.ina

Re: FVWM: again (semi-transparent) pseudo-cursors

2009-09-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/9/4 Lucio Chiappetti :  - associate to an application (which could be a do-nothing application    e.g. an xterm with a special title never opened, always iconized)    an icon which is partially transparent (say a large red ellipse with    the

FVWM: again (semi-transparent) pseudo-cursors

2009-09-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
) - bind the mouse to the icon so that it is moved centered on the mouse - but allow mouse clicks (and keyboard actions) to be passed to the underlying application as normal On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: My purpose is to present in a videoconf a PDF document and a set of web

FVWM: [OT] (semi-transparent) cursors

2009-09-02 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
videoconf a PDF document and a set of web pages, and being able to highlight parts of it moving the mouse (like a laser pointer in a local presentation). The typical cursors are not that visible after all. Thanks -- Lucio

Re: FVWM: [OT?] using part of the screen as full screen ?

2009-08-21 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
he bug in our videoconf device is still there after further tests with the manufacturer. -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info :

FVWM: [OT?] using part of the screen as full screen ?

2009-08-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
uot;wrap" my X-session in one application which could act as an X server with a reduced screen size. Does such wrapper exist (ideally within fvwm or at least within Suse) ? Any hints will be much appreciated -- -------- Luci

Re: FVWM: search windowlist

2009-07-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
-- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Wir muessen wissen / wir werden wissen

Re: FVWM: fvwm, xterm and unicode UTF-8

2009-05-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/5/6 Lucio Chiappetti : I have no idea whether fvwm or whatever is the lead X process in the complex SuSe X login do execute .login. Nothing in FVWM does -- and no shells do by default. Sort this out by looking at what your shell is doing when it&#

Re: FVWM: fvwm, xterm and unicode UTF-8

2009-05-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
e ago). It should not matter since individual shells/ xterms should NOT execute .login (and in fact LC_CTYPE is not set). I have no idea whether fvwm or whatever is the lead X process in the complex SuSe X login do execute .login. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Mil

FVWM: fvwm, xterm and unicode UTF-8

2009-05-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
StringEncoding=UTF-8:xft:sans-serif:encoding=iso10646-1:size=10; followed by some font specification, but these seem not relevant to applications like xterm. Can someone enlighten me ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I

Re: Start vs Init was Re: FVWM: question

2009-02-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Thomas Adam wrote: 2009/2/19 Lucio Chiappetti : AddToFunc I StartFunction I Exec exec xterm do you really mean "I StartFunction" instead of "InitFunction"? With an I? I mean: AddToFunc StartFunction I Foo sorry, I was mislead since

Start vs Init was Re: FVWM: question

2009-02-19 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
cond copy of the clock) ! I reverted to InitFunction (You should be using FVWM 2.5.26 anyway.) I have an *OLD Suse* fvwm 2.5.10 (not likely to upgrade the OS until I change the hardware too), if that matters. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Ita

Re: FVWM: Possible bug in fvwm: Using PositionPlacement with x,y pair nolonger honors StartsOnPage

2008-08-11 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
efox") Style Gecko StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition This seems to work for me. (and I did not invent it myself) -- -------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Ital

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
use the window menu to make it sticky, change page/desk and make it unsticky. Or leave it sticky if I need to go to and fro many times. I guess the good of fvmw is that allows many different working styles to be achieved easily and in a light way. -- ----

Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?

2008-05-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 06May2008 09:24, Lucio Chiappetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it is possible to configure the list per-user to send daily MIME digests instead of individual mails ? To drift even further, I still don't understand why people prefer

Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?

2008-05-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
an usual, does anybody know if it is possible to configure the list per-user to send daily MIME digests instead of individual mails ? I have now configured that way most of the mailman-based mailing lists to which I subscribe, but the FVMW list is a majordomo list, isn't it ? -- --

Re: FVWM: acrobat/adobe reader, firefox and FVWM

2008-04-10 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
was to use PDF instead of powerpoint or openoffice because anybody will have a PDF viewer, and that will generally be some Adobe thing. -- ------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http:

Re: FVWM: acrobat/adobe reader, firefox and FVWM

2008-04-09 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ht margin, but never mind. ... still waiting for an emulation trick to switch to the firefox desktop when a click on an URL in acroread running on another desktop loads a web document into firefox. -- ------- Lucio Chiappetti - INA

Re: FVWM: acrobat/adobe reader, firefox and FVWM

2008-04-09 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
was (is) a quirk of my OLD firefox, not a bug on the new version ? You could emulate it though if you wanted. Yes thanks, How do I do that ? assign FPGrabFocus to Gecko or what else ? -- ------- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via

Re: FVWM: acrobat/adobe reader, firefox and FVWM

2008-04-09 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
an addendum to my previous post On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I added an entire line with: Style "Adobe Reader" StartsRaised, FPGrabFocus,NoTitle The window manager title bar correctly disappears when I start acrobat reader in a window, but as soon as I go full

FVWM: acrobat/adobe reader, firefox and FVWM

2008-04-09 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
sticky. There is nothing different in the .fvwmrc's which causes this as far as I can tell. Both have Style Gecko StartsOnPage 1 0 0, SkipMapping, NoPPosition QUESTION: how can I force the automatical desktop switching ? -- --------

Re: FVWM: Number of Desktops

2005-07-07 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Lukas Ruf wrote: > My configuration shows four desktops. I would like the numbers of > desktops to be reduced to two. > However, I would like to have only 8 (2x(4x1)). Well, I have two desktops (Main and Secondary) and each one is 2x2. I have this in .fvwm2rc DeskTopName 0 M