On Wed, 6 May 2009, Thomas Adam wrote:

2009/5/6 Lucio Chiappetti <lu...@lambrate.inaf.it>:
I have no idea whether fvwm or whatever is the lead X process in the complex SuSe X login do execute .login.

Nothing in FVWM does -- and no shells do by default.  Sort this out by
looking at what your shell is doing when it's invoking a login shell.

A long time ago (soon after I moved to SuSE when I was choosing the window manager), I tried to trace all the steps of an X login, including the execution of sytemwide /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/csh.login and user .cshrc and .login. I still have some obscure notes about it.

I seem to remember there are transient processes involved. This seems indicated also by the gap in the pid's in the following excerpt of a tree-like ps.

 PPID   PID USER     COMMAND
    1  4971 root       /opt/kde3/bin/kdm
 4971  4989 root         /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp .....
 4971  4990 root         -:0
 4990  6303 lucio          /usr/bin/X11/fvwm
 6303   469 lucio            xterm
  469   471 lucio              -csh

You should realize that an user of fvwm and csh like me is sort of an anomaly for SuSE who expects KDE and bash :-)

I believe there is some transient bash involved in the X login.

Anyhow the main question was whether an xterm started via Exec xterm from a .fvwm2rc menu should behave differently than an xterm started from a shell.

What happened was that the former has correct unicode support, while the latter requires an explicit -u8.

Now I've arranged everything, and I'm inclined to "if ain't broken don't fix it".

But I was just curious if the correct unicode support in the menu Exec xterm was an fvwm bonus, or just a coincidence of some local setup.

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