Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1

Glen, Nothing spooks me so much as when people I know and respect are using words I know and respect in combinations that make no sense to me. You have often taken mercy on me in the past. Can you provide a rough, English major's guide to what you-guys are talking about? Nick Nicholas S.

Re: [FRIAM] Income Equality

diverse things like assets or hobbies, will only lead to dissonance. Putting the question back in context, is homogenized annual income "one reaction step away" from our current state? No way. On 4/1/19 8:17 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > On 3/31/19 11:20 PM, Nick Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] Income Equality

Income Equality Hey Nick, what species of hominid do you think would go for that? I'm thinking maybe bonobos, but Homo sapiens' certainly doesn't seem to be headed that way. It would be nice in a utopian sort of way, but doesn't seem too likely. On Mon, Apr 1, 201

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1

super complicated... Is it invertible? Using "comonads" helps answer some of those.) Is the space of possible universes being explored smooth? ... convex? (can't get there from here), etc. On 4/1/19 2:50 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Nothing spooks me so much as when people I kno

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1

F What if his mother was an identical twin? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1

ly one of them carried him in her uterus. On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:29 AM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: F What if his mother was an identical twin? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.e

Re: [FRIAM] /Topic Latent in: Latent Topics was: enough sleep?

One of you said: and I can't help but wonder *why* individuals are so entitled to think they deserve anything at all other than the opportunity to exist ... if even that. Lurking in the back caves of my liberal bleeding heart lurks a troll who responds badly to "entitlement" and its c

Re: [FRIAM] da foist pictures of a black hole

Eric, May I have leave to ask you a ==> really dumb question<==? What does it mean to say that we have "seen" a black hole? It's a metaphor, right? In the sense that saying that we have "seen" an electron is a metaphor. And there is a lot of equipment that has been aggressively designed

Re: [FRIAM] da foist pictures of a black hole

uestion. Best, Eric > On Apr 11, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Nick Thompson < > <mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Eric, > > May I have leave to ask you a ==> really dumb question<==? > > What doe

Re: [FRIAM] /Topic Latent in: Latent Topics was: enough sleep?

Wait, Marcus, wait! Hang on, there! Didn't you just assert an identity? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] O

[FRIAM] email snafu

I somehow managed to obliterate all email between 4pm Friday and 1pm Saturday. Please, if you sent me anything during that time that you think needs a response, would you resend it? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.ne

Re: [FRIAM] Everything she knows...

Frank, Thanks for sending that along. See, that’s why I never became a famous author. I didn’t want to become one of those evil guys. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] Everything she knows...

Dear Frank, We octogenarian former academics have to do what we can. Lacking laboratories, libraries, secretaries graduate students, seminars, colloquia and all the other joys of academic life, the one thing we CAN do is buy a few books and study them carefully. So that’s what I do. FRIA

[FRIAM] My colleague Paul Ropp

Dear Friammers, Some of you may remember Paul, who used to join us for a month at a time, beginning four or five years back. He was a china scholar colleague of mine at Clark, and eagerly looked forward to coming to FRIAM when he was out here. I will miss those visits. See below, N

[FRIAM] What Are We Monists Moaning About?

Dear Friammers, The subject line is the title of an article I am thinking about writing for the Annals of Geriatric Maundering, and I want your help. If you think that I am offering you an opportunity to waste your time, in service of advancing my career, you are, of course exactly correct.

Re: [FRIAM] What Are We Monists Moaning About?

ld take a look at Bruno Marchal's theory, which is developed in terms of modal logic. His book I translated "Amoeba's Secret" is probably the gentlest introduction. Not sure what an English major might make of it though :). On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 12:45:43PM -0600, Nick Tho

[FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

For those of you wise enough to skip reading my rant, here is the question I got to at the end. I would love some help with it tomorrow. What does a Turing Machine know? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.ne

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

38 PM uǝlƃ ☣ mailto:geprope...@gmail.com> > wrote: What was the result of this morning's conversation? On 4/25/19 10:50 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > What does a Turing Machine know? -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complex

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

I am interested in the results, if any, of this morning's meeting.) -- Russ Abbott Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM uǝlƃ ☣ mailto:geprope...@gmail.com> > wrote: What was

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

problem, I'd still be stuck. I have no idea how to build consciousness and subjective experience into a washing machine. This is probably where we got stuck the last time we talked about this. I guess we drifted back out to the deeper water anyway. Oh, well. Perhaps it was worth revie

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Lee, Remember, I and only I, am to blame for raising this question. There ain't no "circles" here. Belelagued as I am, I migh persist and ask you, "Ok, what does an "instantiation" of a Turing Machine Know?" Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark Univ

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Frank, Well, that’s a little blunter than I feel comfortable with because it identifies “answering questions” with consciousness. I like better, “Imagine a computer, however complicated you care to make it, however skilled in its execution of human behaviors in human contexts, can such a c

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

ickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 3:38 PM To: FriAM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow What was the result of this morning's conversation? On 4/25/19 10:50 PM, Nick Tho

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Indeed, Frank. We behaviorists call that abDUCKtion. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mail

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

So, Lee, you ask: So, Nick, why are you asking what Turing machines think, instead of what modern computers think? (Be careful how you answer that...) So, I am trying to think like an honest monist. It seems to me that a Turing Machine is a monist event processing system. All you got is

Re: [FRIAM] A question for tomorrow

Gosh, Russ; thanks. Really! It does help to be ignorant. Talking to you guys is like wandering in a field of wonders. (Or is that wondering in a field of wanders? I can never tell. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University <

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Thanks, Jon, for that thoughtful post. Mostly I hope that others will comment on it. I guess it comes down to two questions: Grant, for a moment, that knowing is a relation between two entities. Then, we can ask: What is the knowing relation? And, what sorts of competencies are require

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Hi Frank, The problem is that one has immediately to ask, what is the contrast class of experiencing consciousness? Experiencing non-consciousness? I think for your line of thinking, where consciousness is direct, that’s an oxymoron. For my line of thinking, when I woke up from my surger

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

rofile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 12:13 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Hi Frank, The problem is that one has immediately to ask, what is the contrast class of experiencing consciousness? Experiencing non-consciousness? I think fo

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

member that. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 12:32 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wro

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Steve, Oh, all right. Threat of damage. I am truly puzzled by the function of pain. I mean, pain in my ankle causes me to favor my ankle. But what good is gut pain? Or headaches, for instance. Clearly, from an evolutionary standpoint, the function of pain must be what it leads you to

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

said that the Turing machine 'knows' what the programmer programmed and the user observes? None of the three elements "possess" that knowledge in isolation, but 'triadically' they all do. dave west On 4/29/19 7:53 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: Steve, Oh, al

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

el after it emerges from its molting. I would never induce one of these headaches purposely. But they still seem like the serve a purpose, have a correlated "Why?" to them, etc. On 4/28/19 10:53 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Oh, all right. Threat of damage. I am truly puzzled by the f

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Lee God:creation::fish:water::programmer:emergence? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Beha

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

What am I missing? Why are we talking about all these abstract things like "monism", "mind", "knowledge", "experience", "consciousness", and all that malarkey instead of the more biologically established things? How is this thread NOT about biology?

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Hi, Eric, and interlocutors, I knew I would get my ears boxed for this: I was in a forum with a bunch of physicists last year many of whom were wedded to the notion that nature was determined by things beyond experience that we would never know. That's both a tautology AND an oxymoron.

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

-- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:15 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Hi, Eric, and interl

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Marcus, Is this the butterfly-flap argument in another form? Ok, I am improvising here: Let us say that a group of tourists goes to camp under Standing Rock, a geological formation known for its apparent precariousness. Unbeknownst to the campers and the park rangers, erosion due

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

The Schrodinger's cat can be both dead and un-dead, but I cannot know a thing and not know it, except by equivocating on the meaning of "know". I don't think quantum theory applies to logic in the familiar world. Or does it? Am I wrong to be bloody minded about people who bring "lessons from

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

nce", "consciousness", and all that malarkey instead of the more biologically established things? How is this thread NOT about biology? [†] The common term "ecology" and the pairwise, triadic, ..., N-ary, relations it implies seems sufficient without diving in

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

ify as a politically correct snowflake. Anyhoo ... what were we talking about? 8^D On 5/1/19 12:13 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > This Article > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312489651_Alphabet_Soup>, published > in the 70's, will show that my materialist affiliati

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

What a great story, Marcus. Do you know how it came out? I know that's irrelevant, but still I want to know. More to the point, I take it you have no trouble calling that behavior "single-mindedness." Does anybody else? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biol

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Oh, gosh! "Humiliate?!!!" I hope not. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wedn

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

G Historically, women have not found us much fun. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wedne

Re: [FRIAM] Imposter complex (was: A Question For Tomorrow)

Glen, Here's a test. After one makes a contribution, do other people make contributions? The poster's motives don't really make a difference, if the post moves the discussion forward. Also, does posting move the POSTER'S thinking forward. If being "the smartest person in in the room" fro

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

m] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:55 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow Hi Nick, in turn, On May 1, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: I k

Re: [FRIAM] More on levels of sequence organization

WTH are you doing up at this hour? WTH am I doing up at this hour? Hope you-re back to sleep. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-bou

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

David, I am only frustrated because I think FRIAMMERS hold the keys to the universe won't explicate them in metaphors that I can understand. So, imagine yourself talking to a group of boy (girl-) scouts. You have just demonstrated to them the phenomenon of Cellular Automaton #30 (or wha

Re: [FRIAM] Visual Migraines

I think this makes you a “glop-monist”. It’s glop, and glop-relations all the way down. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesig

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

yway. It's common to denigrate those who answer questions with questions. But my response to the scout would be: "Well, what did you EXPECT to happen?" Give a man a fish ... yadda yadda. On 5/5/19 10:53 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > So, imagine yourself talking to a group of boy

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

on/understanding in order to get to the larger understanding. Sometimes answering by asking "What THAT are you talking about?" is a good way to teach them how to fish. On 5/7/19 9:16 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > this scout, whatever, don't know nuthin'. All he knows

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

re trying to understand, I guess. On 5/7/19 10:38 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Given that my question about programming and emergence is a lifeless, > flatulent piece of crap ... conceding ALL of that .. how would you breathe > life into it? -- ☣ uǝlƃ =

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

ours with anything could be regarded as "remarkable in their craft" ... except in the sense of stubbornness, perversity, or somesuch like that. On 5/7/19 11:28 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > You see, this conversation just confirms me in my belief that you-guys > have lost touch

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

m] On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:25 PM To: FriAM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words Ha! There's no way I would ever say that. I might say familiarity reduces amazement, though. On 5/7/19 12:20 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > "Familiarity extinguishes emergence&qu

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

uot;emergent" even if you think it's boring. On 5/7/19 12:27 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Ok, then. > > Are the sudden shifts in the Wolfram CA's cases of emergence? -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group list

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

Oh, Gosh! I AM sorry! Please all disregard my attempts to aphorize Glen. Not lies, of course, unless I can lie while believing what I say. But clearly not productive. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickth

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

that I didn't write? On 5/7/19 12:36 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > "Emergence is in the eye of the beholder." G. Ropella, 2019 -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] Visual Migraines

Oh. Amoebae. Mine are scintillating fortresses. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun..

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

: Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words No. Again, I would never say that. Why are you interacting this way? What are you trying to achieve by attributing things to me that I didn't write? On 5/7/19 12:36 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > "Emergence is in the eye of the beholder."

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

e by attributing things to me that I didn't write? On 5/7/19 12:36 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > "Emergence is in the eye of the beholder." G. Ropella, 2019 -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

Glen, In that same volume is my favorite definition of emergence: When the properties of the whole are dependent upon the order or arrangement of the ingredients. So a cake is an emergent, a bowl of oatmeal is not. I think that's Wimsatt. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

Actual quotation marks, and you can’t see why is he annoyed? From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > on behalf of Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Date: Tuesday, M

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

:58 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Marcus, Of course I see [now] why he was annoyed. And I apologized. And I won’t do it again. And I have tried to explain (and I think Glen has more or less accepted) that my intent was not aggressive. Not s

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

Lee, I am perfectly happy that an argument cannot embrace every extreme case. Reductio ad absurdum has never seemed to me a conclusive form of argument. I looked up "phase transition", which one wise source defined as "a transition ... in phase." Wikipedia was a little wiser. During a

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

Ok, so, Lee. I keep getting my ears boxed for misinterpreting people. So. If my understanding of your metaphor is wrong, what is yours? And to your earlier post, is emergence (or phase change) anything more than the failure of induction? If I asked Conway or Wolfram why does this thing, which

Re: [FRIAM] Narrative bending

Glen, I am ambivalent about AA. There are many people I know whom I feel it has saved from death, but, at the same time, it doesn't seem to be able to move them beyond being "Alcoholics". It's like you’re put on some crazy cruise from Hell to Bliss, which, three days out, you discover is

Re: [FRIAM] Words RE: Words - Narrative Bending - Emergence, oh my!

Steve, Due to a couple of sabbaticals, I had a few of those cross-pond, cross-generational conversations. Nothing better. Carry on, lad! Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] "I have no idea what's going on." -- Towelie

Hopefully, I'll try again soon ... maybe on an airplane flight when I have nothing to distract me. 8^) Well, except nothing perhaps but hurtling at 60 percent of the speed of sound, at ten percent of normal oxygen levels, at 30 degrees below zero packed in with a 160 other sardines in zorri

Re: [FRIAM] 15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf

Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:23 AM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Hi, Everybody,

[FRIAM] Meeting of the Mother Church

Just to say . I am missing you all, already, and you haven't even started to meet yet. Please take good notes. Chilly and damp in the mosquito-infected bog. You can walk across the lawn without getting your feet wet by stepping on the backs of the Lyme - ticks, big as paving stones. Very .. V

Re: [FRIAM] Meeting of the Mother Church

Perhaps your ticks will eventually fill the niche our desert tortoises do out here? Well, except with Lyme Disease instead of Salmonella. - Steve On 5/31/19 8:18 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: Just to say … I am missing you all, already, and you haven’t even started to meet yet. Please take g

Re: [FRIAM] Meeting of the Mother Church

://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 9:20 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Wow! That photo should make the diaspora weep for the h

Re: [FRIAM] Thank you George, Dan, and Dean. For taking me to the hospital. My aphasia was almost gone within an hour. It was very strange to know what I wanted to say without being able to find the w

Geez, Frank! Sounds scary as hell.. I, of course, went on the web to see what you should do. It suggests you go off your birth control pills. Meanwhile, are you in the new wing? Do you have a view? PLEASE, please keep me posted. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emerit

Re: [FRIAM] Thank you George, Dan, and Dean. For taking me to the hospital.

rchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 7:41 PM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Geez, Frank! Sounds scary as hell.. I, of course, went on the web to see what you should do. It suggests you go off your bi

[FRIAM] What was on my screen when you called.

Isn’t that very good news? Are you still languishing in the hospital? Shall I figure out a way for us to play distance chess? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http:/

Re: [FRIAM] Thank you George, Dan, and Dean. For taking me to the hospital.

Where’s the Frankmobile? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Fr

Re: [FRIAM] Cosmos, Quantum, and Consciousness: Is Science Doomed to Leave Some Questions Unanswered?

Hi, Owen, Is “Medium” something I should subscribe to? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailt

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

David, Can somebody forward this on to Mike Daly, whose email I can NEVER recover? I was taught this fascinating trope in graduate school... yes, THAT long ago. There is a second shoe, however. Yes the retina (cochlea, etc.) is that sensitive BUT the neural noise is much louder than that. S

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

? I have seen the angels dancing on the head of the pin, so I know it can be done. Have also consorted with others, directly or intermediated by words, who can say, and demonstrate, the same. davew On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > David, > > Can somebody forw

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

on? > > I have seen the angels dancing on the head of the pin, so I know it > can be done. Have also consorted with others, directly or > intermediated by words, who can say, and demonstrate, the same. > > davew > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Nick Tho

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

ad to silliness like wearing retinas backwards, attachment, karma, rebirth, politics, etc. etc. Luckily we have sensitivity to the quantum and therefore have the potential for enlightenment. [Imagine the smile on my face as I contemplate Nick reading the last paragraph] davew

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

arrel when going over Niagara Falls. > > davew > > (I assume you are wearing your hip boots as standard gear in the MIB.) > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: >> David, >> >> I will see your "bushwash" and

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

blications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 8:16 AM Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Dave West Wrot: To bring the sensitivity question back into play: the real messiness of the external world arises from

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

t or borrow aspects of your monism from Pierce, I think (understanding him only partially and incompletely) it is a fragile thing. Hubristic, ain’t I? davew On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: Dave West Wrot: To bring the sensitivity question back into play: the rea

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

matched by my bone-headedness. <==nst] You somewhere nice? Hubristic, ain’t I? davew On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: Dave West Wrot: To bring the sensitivity question back into play: the real messiness of the external world arises from the quantum

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Einstein: physics for English Majors

-- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > Subject: FW: Einstein: physics for English Majors Dear Friamers, My wife, who haunts the dusty back stacks of local libraries and brings me treasures, brought me a copy of the attached book, which I later

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

While we're getting rid of concepts, let's just get rid of this foolish, unsubstantiated concept, "the world." What sort of heuristic is THAT? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Orig

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

haven’t read enough to know yet whether I think his take is important. But it would be hard to find someone who picked up the question in terms more identical to those that Nick uses below to frame it. Eric > On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Nick Thompson < > <mail

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

has anyone drunk the full potent? davew On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > While we're getting rid of concepts, let's just get rid of this > foolish, unsubstantiated concept, "the world." What sort of heuristic > is THAT? > > N > &

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

ward an experience-monism of some sort, and that seems the only kind of position that makes any damned sense at all. <==nst] Best, Eric On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:00 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Eric, Can you direct me to any p

Re: [FRIAM] Archangel Michael's Message For You

Eric, Glen, There are two moments when I am vulnerable to pfishing. Yes, the first is when I am bored. Stipulated. But the second, and worst, is when I am extraordinarily stressed. So, if, on such a day, a message comes which says that "my mastercharge account has been breached", the "leetl

[FRIAM] Net monitoring softwares

Hello, all, Greetings from the mosquito infested bog. You remember that my situation, here, in the third world (rural Massachusetts), I have the "last mile" problem, so am dependent on a Verizon hotspot for my data connection. Verizon, of course, is devious, venal, and rapacious, and eve

[FRIAM] abduction and casuistry

Hi, all, Once you become aware of abduction as a mental operation, you start to see it everywhere. I saw it in Malcom Gladwell's three part series ( https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-standard-case/id1119389968?i=10004 44756825; https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dr-rocks-taxonomy/i

Re: [FRIAM] abduction and casuistry

I don’t. <==nst] Thanks, again, for answering. I guess you and I are the only ones who are going to engage on this one, so I am particularly grateful. Nick On 8/20/19 12:19 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Once you become aware of abduction as a mental operation, you start to

Re: [FRIAM] abduction and casuistry

Hi, Glen, This is one of those moments when Steve Smith may be able to rescue my ability to participate further in this conversation by making a translation. Steve? Can you help here? By the way, I am still puzzled by how one makes inferences or explanations without categories and/or pri

Re: [FRIAM] abduction and casuistry

But practicality demands that we doubt at least some dots. So, we're allowed to throw out the weakest dots if that allows us to form more interesting connective patterns. So, in this scenario, the proto-hypotheses are really just collections of old dots in which the new dot must sit. We'

Re: [FRIAM] abduction and casuistry

g. <==nst davew Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: glen [mailto:geprope...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 7:36 PM To: The Friday

[FRIAM] FW: Mathematical Inquiry

Dear Mathematical Friammers, What follows is a problem in mathematics, which, of course, has nothing to do with me. Jones is a diabetic, and he has a glucose monitor that gives him his exact blood glucose level moment to moment. Jones notices at that after breakfast, his blood sugars

Re: [FRIAM] [EXT] FW: Mathematical Inquiry

ome kind of beta function, in part because I remember pictures of beta distributions and they seen to be about right--but I have forgotten the hypotheses that would lead to such a function. --John _ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > on behalf of Nick Tho

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

Frank, Dave, Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying close attention, but … I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM from 24 August on. I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine pourer at a classical “symposium”

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