Eric, May I have leave to ask you a ==> really dumb question<==?
What does it mean to say that we have "seen" a black hole? It's a metaphor, right? In the sense that saying that we have "seen" an electron is a metaphor. And there is a lot of equipment that has been aggressively designed to make that metaphor seem ... um ... less ... um... metaphorical. Is the seeing of a black hole any more or less direct than the seeing of an electron? Thanks, if you have time to tangle with this. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:49 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] da foist pictures of a black hole Indeed, Gil, I was just on the piont of writing to the list, because I was surprised at no traffic on this stunner. There is a photomontage I would love to have, which I think doesn’t exist yet, but now can. Full M87 in the visible: http://hubblesite.org/image/2391/gallery (which I guess is about a 100-arcsecond image) The M87 jet in the radio: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0007/m87jet_hst_big.jpg (maybe 10-20 arcsecond scale) The 7-arcsecond close-up of the jet in radio (VLA), X-ray (Chandra), and visible (Hubble), which is mostly motivated by understanding the “knot” they label HST-1: http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2001/0134/M87_scale.jpg And now the 50-microarcsecond images of the central black hole https://aasnova.org/2019/04/10/first-images-of-a-black-hole-from-the-event-horizon-telescope/ To see a world in a grain of sand. So one good thing will have happened today, Eric > On Apr 11, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/science/black-hole-picture.html > > ^ now that is amazing. Keep kicking arse science! > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove