Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission?

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Re: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson

I believe my brother has had it. When he is well enough to move around and not infect anybody else he intends to go get tested for antibodies. Maybe another week. Said it was one of the three worst illnesses of his life so far, though it looks like mostly extreme fatigue and lassitude; not evi

Re: [FRIAM] observability and randomness

Hey! > On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:38 AM, ∄ uǝlƃ wrote: > > Ha! Nah. Books are for people who can't handle peer review We got peer reviewed, by five people. One of the reviews was 35 pages long. The editor said he had never received anything like it. Parts of it were so useful we used them to re

Re: [FRIAM] observability and randomness

nstructive feedback? Or did you, > perhaps, recommend people to review it, knowing they would be knowledgeable > and interested? > > On 6/29/20 3:40 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> Hey! >> >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:38 AM, ∄ uǝlƃ wrote: >>> >>> Ha!

Re: [FRIAM] observability and randomness

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Re: [FRIAM] observability and randomness

AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I remember many years ago when Eric was apparently prodded for some bio, he > produced something including a terrifying claim like "Eric Smith is a > generalist." I was very pleased to read this, but I got the distinct > impression he wa

Re: [FRIAM] The theory of everything

Not good for me to do this, so let me try to be brief (never a thing I am good at). 0. To repeat myself for the 100th time, of course if one structures conversations around writing down single words (“evolve”, “emergent”, “complexity") and arguing about what they _really_ mean, one can go on f

Re: [FRIAM] The theory of everything

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Re: [FRIAM] The theory of everything

Thank you Jon, Yes, I had forgotten that Purcell did the original of this, and I may not have seen this particular lecture. (I don’t have recall of the hand pictures.) What a remarkable guy he was. In almost any topic where he wrote teaching materials, his are the best version on the subject.

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

I wonder If some part of this is a wish for methods that allowed one to put things to rest, so that a subject can “build”. When people I run across talk about how they wish their work were more like the work they think goes on in physics, they often invoke work that has been settled for so long

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

Ha! 2-factor authentication! > As an academic, my fascination with authority mostly revolved around > graduation ceremonies. At Penn State Altoona, we always had an emissary from > the board of trustees, who would travel to our campus with an oversized > magical amulet that he gives to the Cha

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

Roger but also Jon, It is neat that this question can be so simply posed, and can be answered in a way that isn’t trivial but is also hard to disagree with. > Where are the solid foundations of quantum mechanics? I would characterize my own position in nearly identical terms to those Jon used

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

> You can say it doesn't bother you, but it did and does bother a lot of people. > > -- rec -- > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:48 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Roger but also Jon, > > It is neat that this question can be

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

Nick wrote: > "F=ma" is not a model. I worked under a professor, for many years, at U.T. Austin, helping him design an intro-to-modern-physics course for the liberal arts honors major. It was a very successful coarse, producing many students who remained in humanities or literature and had

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

Hi Roger, Dave, Jon, Jon’s answers are at a level of technical sophistication and quality I don’t have to offer. They already subsume and surpass anything I would say below., to the extent that I think I appreciate roughly what they refer to. I also admit not having been able to justify the t

Re: [FRIAM] invoking quantum woo (was Book publishing advice needed)

7505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:31 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Hi Roger, Dave, Jon, > > Jon’s answers are at a level of technical sophistication and quality I don’t > have to offer. They already

Re: [FRIAM] better simulating actual FriAM

Hi All, Two quick comments (two emails). I think the way Glen has this set up below does all the main work Nick wants done. The idea is that state spaces of different dimensions are different kinds of settings. A state space for one ladder is one kind of setting. A state space for two ladde

Re: [FRIAM] better simulating actual FriAM

Wanted to reply to Glen’s reading below, which is also the way I see it. I don’t worry about keeping track of signs and factors of 2 in drafting-stages of these conversations; that is a tedious chore to be done later if one thinks there is something to say that warrants it. But if one did want

Re: [FRIAM] Can you do this? HTML required.

Cody’s observation gives a nice branch to Alexander Luria’s The Mind of a Mnemonist. Patient S (I think real name Shevashensky) was a perfect-memory person (I forget autistic or not, but yes synaesthesic), whose life was not very functional but who made a living to some degree as a memory perfo

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

You know what is interesting in this, Merle and Nick, is that it begs for a structural analysis of the whole educational system. I wish I could remember where I saw it, but there was a write-up in some reputable place (higher-ed journal?) on schools with real scholarships that let in kids who

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

Here I think we have to ask Ta-Nehisi Coates, and simply accept whatever he says, making a good-faith effort to not pick nits in the sentences out of context, but to engage with the causal picture he argues at the system level. One part of the argument is: Whiteness is a myth (both figuratively

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

han would be expected at totally random > chance. In contrast, African American children from the bottom quintile are > 85% less likely to end up in the top quintile than would be expected at > totally random chance. > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:50 PM David Eric Smith

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

the top quintile than would be expected at totally random > chance. In contrast, African American children from the bottom quintile are > 85% less likely to end up in the top quintile than would be expected at > totally random chance. > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:5

Re: [FRIAM] actual vs potential ∞

This is where folk tales are wonderful. Out of all the complex clutter of daily life among all the different people, they recognize a big question and put a marker on it by wrapping it in a small story or metaphor, which turns out to have staying power as a meme, because it resonated with what

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct" -- branch mobility data

can children from the bottom quintile are > 85% less likely to end up in the top quintile than would be expected at > totally random chance. > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:50 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Here I think we have

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

ffers a health crisis and > values life over assets, spends a huge sum to stay alive, then has to keep > working until they die. > [♭] Albeit with competing dimensions of population growth, automation, more > opportunity for the worker-to-owner path, more risk of the owner-to-wor

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

There ought to be some good version of this conversation that juggles both considerations of precision and questions of good or bad faith. One of my least-favorite ways to spend a few minutes is by being attached by one of these people who seem to take their identity from all the ones they can

Re: [FRIAM] "Brown eggs are local eggs and local eggs are FRESH!"

It is so interesting that, just as in the earlier discussions of emergence and probably others, Nick uses the word “epiphenomenal” in ways it would never occur to me to use it, and as far as I can tell quite exclusive of the only way it did ever occur to me to use it. I guess DS Wilson (or Elli

Re: [FRIAM] "Brown eggs are local eggs and local eggs are FRESH!"

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Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

This is both beautiful and just, Jon. What’s the next action item, because surely you are right. Eric > On Aug 17, 2020, at 3:35 AM, jon zingale wrote: > > Please excuse the Cassandrafreude, but here we are nearly 7 months later and > we now have the app, it is called the U.S Postal Service.

Re: [FRIAM] "Brown eggs are local eggs and local eggs are FRESH!"

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Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

So it’s not for the US today, but the thing that put Scott Boorman on the map (and fairly quickly got him installed in Yale), was an attempt to be a bit systematic and disciplined, and commit to some specific interpretations, for Mao and the infludnence of Go on military strategy across much of

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

That’s cool, Jon, You know Janice Kim? 2-DOS Eric > On Aug 21, 2020, at 11:50 AM, jon zingale wrote: > > Steve - > > Are you saying that DT tenukis every move? It appears to me that the Dems > follow him around the board. While the latter is most certainly a beginner > mistake, the former (i

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

If one had time to do a good study design (which sounds hard), it would be nice to create measures of social trust (what can you count on other people to do for you) and responsibility (what you believe you owe to others and feel compelled to provide). Then divide into the same cohorts, and fin

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

lizing/unifying trust into any single app, org, or person will > always be a mistake. > > On August 23, 2020 4:42:42 PM CDT, David Eric Smith > wrote: >> >> if Redfield is directing the CDC, and Azar is directing whatever he >> directs, and a month before Elec

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

sance can be damaging, I have faith in the overwhelming majority of > those people to continue the work they do. And to whatever tiny extent I can, > I'll help them do that work. > > > On August 23, 2020 10:29:54 PM PDT, David Eric Smith > wrote: >> Well, if that’s

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

It’s interesting you should have ended your email with that term, Nick. I just (in a different medium) learned the meaning of it a few weeks ago. But a more complete source is https://www.yesmagazine.org/economy/2015/05/20/is-west-virginia-s-coal-history-a-goldmine-mine-wars/

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

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Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an interesting role at a certain period of social change in Japan. From a friend and colleague: https://www.amazon.com/Bonds-Civility-Aesthetic-Politic

Re: [FRIAM] constructionism, textualism, and originalism

Hi Glen, I don’t know how one defines it as a method, but the approach I usually hear contrasted with Originalism comes associated with “living document” language. The idea being that any legal statement cannot take any meaning but in the context of its time (socially accepted norms, available

Re: [FRIAM] why some people hate cops

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >I guess the only thing I hate more than cops are religious people. Defrock the police? > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:50 AM > To: FriAM > Subject: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

l Fields is a > potential model (Glen and Jon can unpack that in a steel man) I don't want to > get distracted by the "How" the synthesis might happen. To borrow from Eric > Smith in the Jim Rutt Podcast > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fjimrutts

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

Steve, probably I should have responded the first time to the main line in your post, which Nick automatically highlighted. > On Sep 25, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > First was to use Marcus's post as a reiteration of evidence to Eric the deep > disdain and hatred many in Sci

Re: [FRIAM] darwin

There is also a passage in one of the books, off one of the coasts of S. America, when Darwin is in a small boat, which a few locals, and at least one slave in some capacity (maybe not boat driver; maybe going with the group to do something; I forget). Somebody (either Darwin or one of the othe

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

Yeah, agree with Pat, agree with Glen. I will say it in a way that seems inevitably to be ruder, though I don’t wish to be rude. I find libertarian thinking, in any forms I have encountered that have agency in the world, to be willfully disingenuous about the things that actually cause problem

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

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Re: [FRIAM] for Nick - prurient entymology

That’s cool, > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 12:50 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: [FRIAM] for Nick - prurient entymology > > Editor - Roman title for someone charged with organizing human sacrifices Meaning hasn’t

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I’d say if there is some kind of communication that can occur (verbal or > non-verbal) that entity has higher status than those than cannot engage in > communication. > There ia a fun example of this from ethnography, which I used to ope

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Conley is an osteopath. Atlas is a radiologist. The AMA tries to weed out the crazy or corrupt, and considering how many really good doctors they manage to train and certify from a broad public of ordinary ability (the category in which I would put all of us as well), I think they deserve cred

Re: [FRIAM] labels

Yes, and not only Ugh. The two places this bothers me as a category error are: 1. It conflates writing the rules of the game and being a player in the game. Shubik used to harp on this: that the government’s role as the declarer of monetary policy, and as the participant in fiscal policy, were

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

So this is metastasizing now, and there have been other decades when it wasn’t such a problem, or at least not as overt. Is that due to demographic sorting? In more prosperous (or even just earlier) times, enough people stayed near where they were born that cultures got some mix of preferences

Re: [FRIAM] 8^D

I think it is a grand metaphor, meant to bring in the whole of one of the briefest postal correspondences in the literature of science. Boltzmann to his publisher: ? Publisher back to Boltamann: ! What did Churchill say? The two things that modern man would worst miss were a classical educati

Re: [FRIAM] 8^D

an't > possibly be as empty-headed as he seems. So there must be some deep structure > we could tease out if we had the energy." > > I've never heard the Chruchill quote, where's it from? > > On 10/12/20 2:01 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> I think it is

Re: [FRIAM] Logo/Ideo/Phono graphic language

. When I was younger (more juiced on the hormones and >>>>> rhetoric and appeal of competition?) I was more seduced by some of that. >>>>> Now it just makes me feel systemically ill. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know you well Carl, but from w

Re: [FRIAM] Logo/Ideo/Phono graphic language

t;>>>> they seem to lean toward a virulent extremist willingness to *assert >>>>> their will* on others under the guise of protecting *their will from >>>>> subversion* . When I was younger (more juiced on the hormones and >>>>> rhetoric and appeal

Re: [FRIAM] labels

; > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:47 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] labels > > Yes, and not o

Re: [FRIAM] labels

eris from noise requires some sort of > prior model. We have to decide kindasorta what we're looking for before we > start willy-nilly inferring. (While relatively agnostic inference algorithms > like empirical mode decomposition are always attractive, TANSTAAFL.) > > On 10/13/20

[FRIAM] What would be the goals of a large state?

There’s an article in Foreign Affairs that discusses this question from a perspective that mirrors very many dimensions of what I have come to think is right over the years: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2020-10-02/capitalism-after-covid-19-pandemic

Re: [FRIAM] What would be the goals of a large state?

ng or ownership of “means of production”, which I know were discussed here at length a few months ago. > The very concept of profit is leveraging a source into a decoupled product > ... and a product which *accumulates* at least somewhat passively ... the > accumulation of capital.

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Hi Nick, I think something causes dreams to have the narrative order they have. Whatever it is probably is put in place by all the other functions that the brain is asked to perform, along with the many constraints on how it is possible to make a brain. So dreams receive all that structure to

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

4oYshoWm_HH69okfPH90nSpHrnw,,&typo=1> > > > From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:35 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats > > Hi Nick, &

Re: [FRIAM] high turnout and tight races?

For an ordinary sum of values, as described by the central limit theorem with finite variance, variance increases linearly with N. It is relative variance — variance normalized by the square of the mean — that decreases with N as 1/N. Eric > On Oct 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, > wrote: > > HANG

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

I want to somehow say sigh and sigh on this thread. It comes somehow straight out of Monty Python (Blessed are the cheesemakers….) 1. Some physicists figure out how to do a calculation, showing that some parts can go dynamically into an organized state, appealing to a combination of their own s

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

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Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

But that’s exactly not the set of relations they want to invoke with the word “self-organization”. Not organization imposed by a scaffold. Organization that reflects a loss of access to a large subset of arrangements, for reasons that appeal only to the “ordinary” local properties of the syste

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

wanted it > even shorter. You could do that, sure, but it would never get you a mention > on Freakonomics radio. > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 1:32 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > I’m actually quite on board with your wish to make these q

Re: [FRIAM] numbers

It’s an interesting question what summary statistic would be informative across the several dimensions of context in demography. Total numbers are not by themselves, but neither are fractions. Here’s my candidate, though it would require a parametric model of some sort: Complementary cumulativ

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 6:42 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > > etc. and you've got a pretty significant set of non-buffoons working toward > authoritarianism ... even if they don't *say* that's what they're doing. These days, I think they don’t even mind saying that’s what they are doing. That is a thi

[FRIAM] How soon until AI takes over polling?

Friam poll: How soon until classical telephone polling is just gone? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/upshot/polls-what-went-wrong.html If, as boasted, facebook knows when their users are pregnant before the users know, th

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

s what they > are. Skepticism is a good mistress, but a bad master. > > On 11/9/20 5:09 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> Those with access to Georgia TV stations can watch David Perdue and Kelly >> Loeffler make a pack and attack Raffensperger, or whatever his name is — the

Re: [FRIAM] How soon until AI takes over polling?

> Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:25 AM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Friam poll: > > How soon until classical telephone polling

Re: [FRIAM] How soon until AI takes over polling?

ay it was done in Project Talent but perhaps there is some "machine > readable" way to do it. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 9:05 AM David Eric Smith

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

Vaccinate them or put them in solitary. Social butterflies in the time of cholera. I know why the caged social butterfly sings. The thorn social butterflies. The health care workers really are owed more than they can ever be repaid. Just as trump is. Eric > On Nov 11, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Geo

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

So at some point, too, though, there are actual facts and things and events in the world, which aren’t just cut from the fabric of human impression and attitude. Suppose the following; as I was walking thisPM, after finally watching the Van Jones TED that Glen circulated, it seemed quite believ

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

All this, too, turns on things that are facts of the matter. Roger’s post is of course both excellent and empathetic, and when I read it I wanted to just say thanks for it. Marcus’s counterpoint I also agree with. But at the end of the day, whether your decision is good or bad turns on what i

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

yVqwDwOAy-OnVmWx146g55QLMDMvUN-JGF7AcyAsuz8&typo=1> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 6:59 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

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Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

Yes, huge point here. I don’t feel angry at ticks or V. cholerae. I would feel very angry at a person who injured something innocent. I prefer my affect toward trump to be closer to my affect toward ticks, because I think he is degraded enough to not qualify much as human. I hold that posit

Re: [FRIAM] The next Heterodox University faculty member

Iambic hexameter: > On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:48 PM, > wrote: > > The thunder echoes in the covid-emptied streets. > Apocalyse! I feel like with a little syllable adjusting, there is a haiku in here somewhere. Eric > Nick > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psyc

Re: [FRIAM] Who's on Friston? Me and my Markov Blanket

someday…. I wouldn’t want to discourage somebody else from doing it. Eric > On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > Eric Smith and Frank, > > Eric, I'd be curious what you think of Karl Friston's talk. > https://www.santafe.edu/events/me-

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Arriving in the US from Australia during Covid was like walking through the looking glass

One of the commentators spun quite a good turn of phrase. I think I want to write it here so I have a record and can go back and find it when I want it: The pandemic is like a mirror held up to society showing the ugliness of the powerful, the beauty of those trying to fight it, the naivety of

[FRIAM] More on social mobility

To continue to try to add raw material to the discussion that EricC took up on this when I made some overly-simple claims earlier, here is a Brookings summary article on work by Raj Chetty (cited in the earlier thread as well): https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2018/01/11/raj-c

Re: [FRIAM] More on social mobility

express the > trend. I confess I'm motivated by stories from Pinker and Shermer about > absolute improvements in the world (considered massively, not particularly), > which leads me to the leveling interpretation. > > On 12/9/20 5:25 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> To conti

Re: [FRIAM] COVID tracking

Yes, seems to be a good app. Georgia Tech has set up a group account that one can log into, and it is part of their campus surveillance system. I do have to stop, and do something probably nobody on the list has any reason to care about, to give a shout-out to them. The current GT monitoring s

Re: [FRIAM] COVID tracking

mplying less privacy)? > > I'm mildly disturbed by the implications of a hypersonic "dogwhistle" app, > though current low-tech modes of signaling one's proclivities and loyalties > is plenty effective (Mason's rings, secret handshakes, code words, etc.) > &g

Re: [FRIAM] Discovery of 'cryptic species' shows Earth is even more biologically diverse | Wildlife | The Guardian

My late colleague Harold Morowitz once made a comment in an afternoon working conversation, which I found funny and fun. He said something like “I remember only 45 years ago when the lagomorphs split off from the rodents”. Kind of like Paul Erdos, the 4 billion year old man. Eric > On Dec 2

Re: [FRIAM] Discovery of 'cryptic species' shows Earth is even more biologically diverse | Wildlife | The Guardian

7hDY1jALoe1ZElHwDVPvEvSE,&typo=1> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:53 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > S

Re: [FRIAM] [in|ex]tensional effects on (English) language

I remember the first time I saw this UK/US are/is contrast, and it seemed so weird. It was in an article on Williams Syndrome children, which included some transcript of the babble from one of them. The babble included “. . . and our bank are . . . “, where the . . . is a bunch of stuff I don’

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

I think the first time I listened to John Holland talk about some science project at SFI (as opposed to just being a returning celebrity), he was talking about the problem of credit propagation in the framework he called “classifier systems”. The issue being that you have a system with many com

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

All points here good to know, Stephen, and many premises I agree with. It seems to me that, if this conversation is ever to do more than have people talk past each other, all discussants need to find it valuable to use restricted scopes for words, to remain within each other’s scopes along the

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

There is another beautiful example of Marcus’s point below that has come up over the past 8 or 9 years, for which George Musser gave a very good write-up of the current state of play: https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-black-hole-information-paradox-comes-to-an-end-20201029/

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

nct, persuasive, and all around >> nifty explications of Peircean Pragmati[ci]sm I have ever read. Complete >> with the ricochet shot to the heart of Rorty. Thanks. > >> On 12/30/20 3:12 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: >>> All points here good to know, Stephen, and many

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

ad behavior and not about what is needed by an idea. It could be that associating “truth” with unification is appropriate, and need not be harmful to practice if one understands that states of knowledge don’t claim to be truth, but at best isomorphic to it in patches if we get lucky. Best, Eric

[FRIAM] Where are you Gary Kasparov?

So let’s suppose Georgia goes through the way it is looking likely to do. The Ds have two years. In addition to the overwhelming bulk of practical work that needs doing, which they can now keep McConnel from blocking out entirely as an act of sabotage, they have one other equally urgent priorit

Re: [FRIAM] Tangled up in our own 2nd Amendment? Bleak Lives Manner?

It would do to unseat all those engaged in today’s little display, as co-conspirators with the group outside. Gosh, Mitch, you seem to have lost the senate today by 16 seats. Had you wanted a better outcome, you might have made some different decisions (hundreds of them) systematically over th

Re: [FRIAM] the power of metaphor.

This is a gem, Marcus, Also in its brevity. But if you could add a few more lines to it, could somebody maybe put it on Cruz’s senator homepage in place of whatever is there right now? Would be a great public service. Would the Russians be willing to rent out one-time access through their

Re: [FRIAM] Fallback in barbarism

In my personal affect, Marcus, I completely share your feeling. > On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I have no problem with the capitol security using deadly force in this kind > of situation. > > As far as I'm concerned they could have sent in Apache helicopters to deal

[FRIAM] Trump is mariner, not albatross

With apologies to the list for a gratuitous posting, because I completely abused a literary symbol earlier (through slovenliness, not ignorance), I am squirming as long as I let it go uncorrected. Trump is of course not albatross. Trump is mariner (we wish, but he won’t live long enough). The

Re: [FRIAM] Fallback in barbarism

I agree at every point, Marcus. Didn’t Luke Skywalker do that zooming-in thing in one of the Star Warses? Would have been fun to see that done to Wednesday’s crowd, with the whole Capitol a hologram. Leave them standing in an empty field hooting. Eric > On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Marcus D

Re: [FRIAM] patriot hackers, again

wonderful. Question to those who do this for a living: With what confidence can we conclude that NSA already has the whole trove, and won’t even need to ask donk_enby to send them a copy? It doesn’t _follow_ from the fact that an individual could do it that they already did, but if she did i

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