Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread glen
Who drives to the pub? That's just stupid. I can't help but worry about my lack of empathy for at least *some* of the victims of wildfire and flooding. The boundary between the wilderness and society shouldn't be peppered by residential homes. We should all live in town and take brief sojourn

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I suspect my view on Elon Musk might be ever so slightly different from the opinions on this group. So, naturally, I asked Grok for help—because if anyone knows about eccentric billionaires with Twitter problems, it’s Grok Me: Please give me a very detailed description with references of all the

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread glen
This was interesting: Language Models Use Trigonometry to Do Addition https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.00873 ... definitely not what I'd do. But I'm terrible at addition. On 2/11/25 12:19 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: It’s what I’d do. A screenshot of a chat Description automatically generated *From:

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
*For robotaxis, I’d bet on Waymo not Tesla. Waymo is very conspicuous and popular in San Francisco. * If you want me to place a bet, I need the fine print—short, medium, or long term? US, China, or global rollout? And, of course, the risk-reward profile—are we playing it safe or swinging for the

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
What I took from that movie was that familiarity breeds contempt. That would be more in favor of suburbia, keeping the semblance of buffer zones. I suppose in a real 15-minute city one wouldn’t be limited to a dozen people, so the cautionary tale would not apply. I would like a mini goat. My b

[FRIAM] Revenge of the nerds, take 2

2025-02-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
Whatever one thinks about transhumanism, it’s not a topic I thought would ever be in the popular imagination.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/12/silicon-valley-artificial-intelligence-ethics/

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
Pieter - In response to both your litany of innovations we might attribute directly to Musk and to this question: I think Musk has managed to set precedents and break new ground in many areas.  It seems possible, for example, that Tesla's dominance in the EV market is past... whe

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
Steve, I really like your reply. There’s a lot I could comment on and maybe add a different perspective—not as a competing argument, but just another view. But for now, I’ll focus on this part: *It seems possible, for example, that Tesla's dominance in the EV market is past...* I wouldn’t be so

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread glen
What you mention below is the fulcrum for a larger argument against (most) modern cities. We had a kind of speakeasy pub in the basement of this guy's house in Portland. No business license or nothing. If you drank there, you had to donate something ... sugar, eggs, homebrewing supplies, whatev

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
On 2/12/25 4:20 AM, glen wrote: This was interesting: Language Models Use Trigonometry to Do Addition https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.00873 ... definitely not what I'd do. But I'm terrible at addition. Fascinating... makes me imagine that biology (thinking d'Arcy Thompson and Morphometrics

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
I expect sooner or later they'll host Sage as Webassembly and host that in the analysis tool. > On Feb 12, 2025, at 3:40 PM, glen wrote: > > Thanks for the FOMO pressure. I tried it out. The automatic code correction > was interesting. > > me: Evaluate the expression e^(iπ). First try to

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread glen
Thanks for the FOMO pressure. I tried it out. The automatic code correction was interesting. me: Evaluate the expression e^(iπ). First try to show your work without using the analysis tool. Then execute the expression in the analysis tool. Claude: Let me solve this step by step first, then ver

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
On 2/12/25 12:55 PM, glen wrote: What you mention below is the fulcrum for a larger argument against (most) modern cities. Our own Jenny Quillien is involved in an international group studying related things: https://www.sustasis.org/ I may be misrepresenting her interests and engageme

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
On 2/12/25 4:46 AM, glen wrote: Who drives to the pub? That's just stupid. Excellent point! I can't help but worry about my lack of empathy for at least *some* of the victims of wildfire and flooding. The boundary between the wilderness and society shouldn't be peppered by residential homes

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Please reflect on these weights and biases to find patterns associated with arithmetic.” [attach multi-gigabyte file] From: Friam on behalf of steve smith Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 9:33 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking On 2/12/25 4:20

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-12 Thread steve smith
Steve, I really like your reply. There’s a lot I could comment on and maybe add a different perspective—not as a competing argument, but just another view. But for now, I’ll focus on this part: */_It seems possible, for example, that Tesla's dominance in the EV market is past..._/* I wou