Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

Both your and Jon's responses are helpful. I'm still very confused about the difference between triviality and degeneracy. FWIW, I dug up the concept of "degeneracy pressure" . Am I talking about that? I think so, in some weird way. Claiming you c

[FRIAM] on government

How Telegram's Founder Pavel Durov Became a Culture War Martyr https://www.404media.co/how-telegrams-founder-pavel-durov-became-a-culture-war-martyr/ Mark Zuckerberg says White House ‘pressured’ Facebook to censor Covid-19 content https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/mark-zu

Re: [FRIAM] on government

I'm in the process of building a machine room for work stuff.Several neighbors hate it, but what they hate is a legal building envelope. If I had to persuade them to like it, I couldn't have it. Although the city takes their pound of flesh (building permits, inspection fees, taxes), they

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Wacko opinion to follow. Read at your own risk. glen asked, "What does it mean to govern?" In the US, governance was apportioned three ways, legislative, administrative, and judicial spheres as well as across Federal and State/Local entities. Woodrow Wilson (in an effort to remake the administr

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Dave writes: < Before Chevron was overturned, those same agencies determination of "science" behind those rules could not be challenged. > Good -- the justices aren't scientists. The mechanism of change should be through scientific debate, not legal debate. Marcus smime.p7s Description: S/

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No News == Good News I'm inclined to agree with this.  In my analogical/metaphorical style I think of "News" as being something like "Inflammation" in an organism or tissue.   Inflammation has a role... to warn the organism (or coupled systems) that something is out of "healthy operating range

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Simply having interests, or the courage of your convictions is immune evasion, if I understand. The problem with news, social media and many kinds of communication is that they risk decreasing social entropy. People become too similar. People stop trying because they feel pressured to confo

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On 8/27/24 11:06 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Simply having interests, or the courage of your convictions is immune evasion, if I understand.   The problem with news, social media and many kinds of communication is that they risk decreasing social entropy.  People become too similar.   People s

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Steve writes: < Must *I* storm the capitol if one (or several or many) legislators-en-residence don't attend to my personal-petty preferences (interests) well enough? Some say yes, but I think they just like storming and tearing down any symbols of "governance" (except their own rebel/nazi fl

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> > > What does it mean to "govern"? > I define governance as enabling constraints on the social systems to achieve least effort coordination. Government has a role as do Corporations. Elinor Ostrom provides alternative bottom up rules for governance and is a guiding ethos of our "digital acequia

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I was behind a minor car accident the other day, and one party -- three people -- exited their car and surrounded the other car, believing the perpetrator needed to be contained. They blocked traffic for about 15 minutes this way, and as far as I could tell did not exchange insurance informati

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Marcus is correct, but also wrong. Judges should not make scientific decisions. Challengers to rules, often large corporations with an intense desire to pollute or commit other social harm, should not either. Nor, should agency "scientists" whose decisions are seldom more than "because I said s

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Well-resourced individuals and organizations can enjoy a system like this where intervention is straightforward via bribes. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 4:48 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] on government Marcus