[FRIAM] "chilling effect"

So, I'd thought the conversations around SB8's "chilling effect" on abortion providers was merely a vernacular expression, not a legal one. E.g. https://reason.com/volokh/2021/11/02/limiting-principles-and-sb8/ But it looks to this non-lawyer like anti-SLAPP laws, explicitly punishing law-gamin

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

"Chilling Effect", now that's good epiphenomena. By that, I suppose I mean that "chilling effect" is more general than a simple gag or restraining order, it aims to inhibit or dissuade behavior. The content of chilling seems to live in the question of "why should a legal system dissuade or inhibit

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

How is it epi? In both the SLAPP case and the SB8 case, it's a directly targeted effect. And it has a long history in prior things like informal policies for segregation and other law-gaming. There's no "epi" here. And what's with that Wikipedia link? Were you trying to edit the page but your a

[FRIAM] Call blockers

Ok. I'm pissed. 4 spam calls before 9 this morning. Century Link is offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks, which seems to be a bit CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object. Do these things work, or is buying one just going to make me angrier when the

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

TELL ME ABOUT IT Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them. I'm trying https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

We get nomobobo for free from Comcast on our landline. It works real well with known numbers in their database and with numbers we add. We still get a lot of calls that use false local numbers that nomorobo can’t really block. We don’t add these numbers to the nomorobo database since they are ge

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Nick - Chinese science moves ahead in the development of the ideal society. I don't mean to be flip in my question, but have to ask if you are being flip in this statement?  Can you say more about what you think the Chinese gov't/people/culture might be "trying" to do, either overtly, or imp

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

Nick, Are you looking at the V5000 call blocker? This will be of a medium amount of use, as it looks like you can block calls with no caller id info. The phone comes with a blacklist of 5000 numbers that you can add more numbers too, but you'll have to do this after/while they're calling, so your

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

I use Google's call screening app. It asks callers to State their name and reason for calling. If they don't respond to that appropriately I block their number. The app is free. I forward my home phone to my cell phone so that the same thing happens to people who call my home phone (landline).

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

Glen - Thanks for this example/analysis... it seems to be an example of how the vernacular creeps upward (capillary action?) into the formal and even legal.   I assume judicial scholars have entire library shelves on the topic of how this happens, how to recognize it, how to effect or mitigat

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Steve, No. You are right on target for the thread. My understanding of the present Government is that it is absolutely convinced that the centralist, technological, authoritarian model of government superior to other models and that this is their time to demonstrate that superiority. I

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

I saw it as "epi" in the sense that it started out NOT as part of the legal system and emerged as a technique which eventually got formalized.   Perhaps you are accurate that this transition moved it from epi to first-class, but I see it as having emergent/epi origins? I didn't decode Jon's UR

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

Evolution is replete with examples where a bug becomes a feeechah. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 11:44 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRI

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago. FWIW I

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Nick - I asked this because the style of your statement felt like it had the flavor of Cold War Rhetoric which I was (also) raised on.   I (want to) think something more sophisticated (and interesting) is afoot today and that while I don't want to fall into the low-entropy stylization implied

[FRIAM] Is Chemero TRULY a pragmatist.

And I quote: When one proclaims oneself to be an antirepresentationalist, as proponents of radical embodied cognitive science do, there are two things one might be saying. First, one might be making a claim about the nature of cognitive systems, namely that nothing in them is a representation.

Re: [FRIAM] "chilling effect"

OK. Well, as Nick pointed out recently, the Constitution (just for example) was *intentionally* gamed ... even before it was written. So even before the game is defined, the "unintentional" side effects are already being considered as primary effects. So, what *seems* epi to one player isn't see

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Steve, Well, I may be the victim of recent “neo- (aka archeo-) liberal” pod casts, but I really get the impression that the Chinese are going for it, boasting a Chinese Exceptionalism every bit as toxic as the one we have espoused. From their point of view, this moment in history is the an

Re: [FRIAM] Is Chemero TRULY a pragmatist.

Primarily: There can be an ultimately arrived at position that is not the prior waypoint positions. The 2 named claims (metaphysical and epistemological) might be "out of the way" waypoints toward that *other truth* which is neither metaphorical nor instrumental. From this perspective Chemero's

Re: [FRIAM] Is Chemero TRULY a pragmatist.

A dagger plunged into my ideological heart. You could have called me a Trumpist, and the wound would not have been so great. [sigh] n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday,

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

Sounds nobel prize worthy! h sounds of "fast" internet in the 80s: nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his screech pop. My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen calls because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it t

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

Nick Fwiw. Me being, me. I for a bit I used this clip to stop robodiallers. because it seemed amusing and appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww I guess it worked for about 12 weeks didn't get a single spam call. On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:12 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Sounds

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Nick, get out your dagger repellent you Trumpist you! I have heard, almost verbatim, your entire paragraph from the mouth of the Donald, and seen the exact same notions discussed, ad nauseam, in Glen's favorite newspaper, *The Epoch Times.* [Don't shoot me glen, it is a joke.] davew On Thu,

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

Dave, So, ad hominem aside, which of the assertions I made are false. Is Hong Kong not being digested as we speak? Is pressure not increasing on the Taiwanese? Are islands not being built and fortified in the international waters around China? Are the Uighurs not being confined in wor