Hi Nick,
Certainly not a dumb question, but also one that I want to avoid having turn
rabbinical. So I have to be careful how I answer. I imagine I am remembering
posts in which you have said something like “ALL statements are metaphors”, and
in that kind of reductio, there is no distinction
Arg! I wish I could go to this. If any of you do, please send along some
notes.
2nd Workshop on Formal Verification of Physical Systems (FVPS 2019)
https://www.cicm-conference.org/2019/cicm.php?event=fvps&menu=general
Theme
One of the main issues behind many failing systems is the ad-hoc ve
Nick-
I think Eric provides an excellent AND thorough analysis of your
question "It's a metaphor, right?" in regard to the recently documented
"black hole".
For your purposes, I would say that "seeing a black hole" in this case
is not particularly metaphorical. But in the spirit of FriAM (or my
On 4/10/19 1:34 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
https://sites.google.com/site/markshirey/ideas/golden-rule-and-prisoner-s-dilemma
Excellent article! Thanks. Is it actually an article by Sagan? Or a blog post
by Shirey?
In any case, the "Tin Rule" targets my confusion well, because it's modal, usi
Glen -
It does look very interesting. I think I've referenced THIS
(inter-reality) work before:
https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0611293
as well as the Phononic quantum computing my nephew has been working on.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/428844/how-to-build-a-phononic-computer/
w
Glen writes:
"What mechanism is responsible for these patterns of expectation, given (what
seems to me) a co-evolutionary milieu far from equilibrium? Is it simply
Hebbian/reinforcement learning, an embodied type of (false) induction? I'm
skeptical because of your (Steve) question about the u
Glen -
> On 4/10/19 1:34 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
>> https://sites.google.com/site/markshirey/ideas/golden-rule-and-prisoner-s-dilemma
>>
>
> Excellent article! Thanks. Is it actually an article by Sagan? Or a
> blog post by Shirey?
I parse it as a blog post by Shirey which is composed of 3 incl
Marcus -
> Glen writes:
>
> "What mechanism is responsible for these patterns of expectation, given (what
> seems to me) a co-evolutionary milieu far from equilibrium? Is it simply
> Hebbian/reinforcement learning, an embodied type of (false) induction? I'm
> skeptical because of your (Steve)
Thanks, Eric, for that answer, which was everything I asked for and much, much
more. I hope you will quickly save it on your hard disk for future use. It
deserves to be out in the world for others to study on. I certainly will try
and get the home congregation to work it over, in the future.
Steve writes:
< It seems like an elaboration of "constraint provides form"? >
Here I'll admit I just have no interest in games, puzzles, and most sports.
Just what IS the point?
I think it is the same kind of psychology at work: Let's create some
artificial thing that can be mastered or at l
On 4/11/19 10:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> What I'm pitching here is not to extend identity, but to annihilate it.
Can we, though? In the conversation about playing roles instead of simply
changing topics of conversation, there seemed to be quite a bit of push back in
the sense of "authentic
Wait, Marcus, wait! Hang on, there! Didn't you just assert an identity?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] O
I'm not sure what you mean. In most programming languages there are different
kinds of comparison operators. For example, Common Lisp has EQ which compares
identity, EQL which compares values, EQUAL which checks for isomorphic objects,
and EQUALP which is recursive.By avoiding use of EQ
Marcus -
> Steve writes:
>
> < It seems like an elaboration of "constraint provides form"? >
>
> Here I'll admit I just have no interest in games, puzzles, and most sports.
> Just what IS the point?
> I think it is the same kind of psychology at work: Let's create some
> artificial thing that
Steve writes:
< What little Buddhist/Meditation affinity/practice I have suggests that
it is an illusion which on a good day is fully ignored ("but by whom?"
the paradox asks). To the extent that *most* everyone I know presents
to me (or I apprehend them as such) as an ego-centric i
What you seem to be describing is a kind of social "flow", where some say the
ego disappears in the midst of it.
Google presented this:
Optimal Experience and Optimal Identity: A Multinational Study of the
Associations Between Flow and Social Identity
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.33
Here is an example. It's come up in different ways over the years and I
always find it strange. I recently was ask to fill in a form where I state
what my role on project is. The project is not well defined and much should
be debated IMO. But there is desire to get on with the business o
Hm. One thing that's not addressed well in that paper (as far as I know, since
all I did was skim ... and I'm completely ignorant of the entire domain) is
identity fluidity. The seem to talk about the strength of one's feelings of
belonging (or get-alonging, if we translate to your hunger for
Glen writes:
"Just try to do the work! Who cares what you think about your self?"
Uh huh. The right way to think is What Needs To Get Done, not whether you get
github stars to show you did it in a day or a month, or that it shows any sort
of consistency on your CV. No one gives a damn. Re
I feel certain I've seen that name before, maybe in the citations for reports
on the models of evolutionary economics I once worked on? I don't know. But
now I *must* read a little deeper.
Tomgram: Ann Jones, Our Veblen Momen
https://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176550/
> Of course, Veblen, who
Marcus -
> Among engineers, especially young ones, one way the ego-centric individual
> presents herself is via Not Invented Here (NIH). She simply cannot imagine
> studying and using another work.The tribe permits it so long as the tribe
> can be impermeable to criticism and that they can
Glen -
I (think I) experience identity-fluidity through both the "group flow"
referenced in the article and what seems to be nothing more than good
old fashioned "empathy".
In "group flow" it is as if the team/group becomes part of my extended
self. This may reflect some narcissism on my part,
Steve writes:
< What Marcus references as "gelling" and "need for social order" strikes
me as superficial goals which are emergent properties, not sufficient
pre-conditions. My experience with overly formal organizations is that
they tend to try to enforce those things, losing track
Glen writes:
"Do any of you psych people care to provide distinguishing definitions for a
lazy dilettante like me?"
I find this kind of evidence unsatisfactory.How people act as individuals
or in groups says nothing about how an AI might function as individuals or in
groups. It's merel
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