Here is an example.   It's come up in different ways over the years and I 
always find it strange.   I recently was ask to fill in a form where I state 
what my role on project is.   The project is not well defined and much should 
be debated IMO.   But there is desire to get on with the business of doing the 
poorly-defined thing.   In terms of skills, I could do different tasks on such 
a project.   Should I write down the thing I expect people will expect me to 
write down (mimic their prejudices) in order to reduce cognitive dissonance and 
friction, or assert the thing I think is important, or even the thing I like, 
without regard to the shortest path to having the team `gel' (sarcasm).   My 
experience is that there a part of any team that just wants consensus, and 
doesn't care one iota what or why they are doing the thing, or if it is even a 
good idea.    It is a hunger for social order that I find incomprehensible and 
unnecessary.

On 4/11/19, 12:35 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <friam-boun...@redfish.com 
on behalf of geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

    
    What you seem to be describing is a kind of social "flow", where some say 
the ego disappears in the midst of it.
    
    Google presented this:
    
    Optimal Experience and Optimal Identity: A Multinational Study of the 
Associations Between Flow and Social Identity
    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.00067/full
    
    which seems to argue to the contrary, that flow facilitates identity.  I 
suppose it might be counter-intuitive to some.  But it makes sense to me if we 
think of teamwork as a type of reinforcement learning, an entrainment to be a 
member of the team.
    
    Whatever, though.  The question it raises to me is the (canonical?) 
difference between ego and identity.  Do any of you psych  people care to 
provide distinguishing definitions for a lazy dilettante like me?
    
    On 4/11/19 12:07 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > Among engineers, especially young ones, one way the ego-centric 
individual presents herself is via Not Invented Here (NIH).  She simply cannot 
imagine studying and using another work.    The tribe permits it so long as the 
tribe can be impermeable to criticism and that they can get her to associate 
the work with the group.   It doesn't matter if it is grossly wasteful of time 
or money.   Also NIH superficially makes the engineer appear more instrumental 
because she is solving a simpler problem than if she rationalized the 
state-of-the-art before beginning her venture.
    
    -- 
    ☣ uǝlƃ
    
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