Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-04-02 Thread glen
Fantastic! I try to be a little absurd [‡] invoking aliens and the dark side of the moon, and Steve finds a way to make it seem reasonable. You clearly out-meta'd me on that one. [‡] Can one be a little absurd? A↛(B⇒A) and B↛(A → A), despite what 'they' tell you. On 3/28/24 16:37, Steve Smith

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
om>> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:33 AM To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems like an option ... assuming you can negotiate wit

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-29 Thread David Eric Smith
tic_Region_Supercomputing_Center > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> on > behalf of glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:33 AM > To: friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> &

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-29 Thread David Eric Smith
Friam On Behalf Of glen > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity > > Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the disaffected > (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die, move, or

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity > > Published a paper couple of years back — IT is not Sustainable. One point > was power consumption: known server-farms at that time used more energy per > year than the UK. Less than 10% came from renewable sources. > > Not included we

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-hires-erin-henderson-to-head-nuclear-development-acceleration-for-data-centers/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 6:34 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Prof David West
Published a paper couple of years back — IT is not Sustainable. One point was power consumption: known server-farms at that time used more energy per year than the UK. Less than 10% came from renewable sources. Not included were all the “secret” farms in Russia, China, etc., or centers like th

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Steve Smith
9:49 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity > > Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die, move, or adapt. > > In the Gaza kerfuffle, I

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
r-data-center/ > > > > I suppose there are some that would say gentrification is genocide -- a > slow coerced displacement. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM > > To: friam@

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Steve Smith
e that would say gentrification is genocide -- a slow coerced displacement. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM To:friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the dis

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread glen
10:33 AM *To: *friam@redfish.com *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems like an option ... assuming you can negotiate with the aliens that live over there. The best thing about coral is you don't have to negotiate for their

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread glen
Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die, move, or adapt. In the Gaza kerfuffle, I've heard some describe coerced displacement as "genocide". I guess the more reasonble term is ethnic cleansing. The settlers se

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
It will force innovation on energy-efficient microarchitecture (e.g. Groq) and on renewable power generation near data centers. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity As we frivolo