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but the "dark side" of the moon is sunlit for half of every month?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowpiercer



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:33 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems
    like an option ... assuming you can negotiate with the aliens that
    live over there. The best thing about coral is you don't have to
    negotiate for their "land". You can just take it and let them die
    like the stupid little creatures they are.

    
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/asia/south-china-sea-philippines-coral-reef-damage-intl-hnk/index.html

    On 3/28/24 10:17, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > It's not really my thing, but I noticed there were several very
    large exhibits at Supercomputing 23 for cooling technology.   Even
    immersive cooling solutions.  I think that could be improved a
    lot.   Without superconducting processors, I don't see how energy
    use can be dramatically reduced though.  For that there will just
    need to be new generation.   Could put these near large off short
    windfarms..
    >
    >
    
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/china-deploys-1400-ton-commercial-underwater-data-center/
    >
    > I suppose there are some that would say gentrification is
    genocide -- a slow coerced displacement.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
    > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM
    > To: friam@redfish.com
    > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
    >
    > Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the
    disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die,
    move, or adapt.
    >
    > In the Gaza kerfuffle, I've heard some describe coerced
    displacement as "genocide". I guess the more reasonble term is
    ethnic cleansing. The settlers seem mostly fine with their ethnic
    cleansing agenda. But, by analogy, how would we describe the
    coercive adaptation put upon a region by a massive water-sucking
    data center? Biology cleansing? If there really were an AI, would
    they worry about the forced displacement caused by their silicon
    incubators? ... or maybe "incubator" isn't a good word. How about
    "galls": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall Yeah, that might be a
    good analogy. The machines are parasitic. They hijack the iDNA
    (information generators) of the local biology to form galls within
    which they grow and thrive.
    >
    > On 3/28/24 07:51, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    >> It will force innovation on energy-efficient microarchitecture
    (e.g. Groq) and on renewable power generation near data centers.
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM
    >> To: friam@redfish.com
    >> Subject: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
    >>
    >>
    >> As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with
    obsequious chatbots, the world burns.
    >>
    >> The industry more damaging to the environment than airlines
    
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/
    >>
    >>
    
https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/engineers-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool
    >


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