Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-31 Thread Frank Wimberly
Thanks, Glen. Maybe, with age, the denial of being a wisp becomes less effective. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread glen∈ℂ
Steve and I discussed some of this sort of thing awhile back. I argued that the loss of both individual and collective plasticity over time might be the core selection criterion. In times of fat diversity in the environment, it's helpful to have diverse and tightly coupled estimators (thanks t

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread Frank Wimberly
; As often, I am overwhelmed by what you write. Makes me wish I were > younger. Still, I was able to muster a couple of “lardings” below: > > nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread David Eric Smith
om > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 6:16 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias! > > Hi Nick, >

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Steve, I agree with what you say below, and had a similar reaction to reading Ortega. From today’s perspective and my own scientific experience set, it would rarely seem natural to me to think of a complex human function as a novel and irreducible thing. We can see so many areas of cogniti

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Nick Thompson
son/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 6:16 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
th a smug look on its > > face." > > > > Excepting the mystic who recognizes that "ALL is illusion," has anyone > > drunk the full potent? > > > > davew > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Prof David West
table, and jump into your mouth without any assistance from your > hands. But I wouldn't bet on it. If I wanted some of that beer, I > would reach for it. > > > Nick > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University >

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Steven A Smith
Eric - Great weigh-in as usual! > Since in every “now” there is a need to navigate some choice of what > to do, and since the experience of each now is constantly being > superseded by the following now, the need to be constantly > constructing an experiential edifice is the relentless driver of

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Nick Thompson
gt; Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A > Smith > Sent: Thursday

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread David Eric Smith
e: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias! >>> >>> I think Ortega y Gasset had things to say about that in Man and Crisis. >>> >>> I haven’t read enough to know yet whether I think his take is important. >>> But it would be hard to find someone who picked up the q

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread Prof David West
down, burps, and walks away with a smug look on its face. >> >> Nick >> >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >> Clark University >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> >> -O

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread David Eric Smith
> -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:19 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
< I deplore a skepticism that drinks only 9/10ths of the potent, and then puts the glass down, burps, and walks away with a smug look on its face. > One fix I’ve observed to exist in an actual medical protocol is to make the dose adequate for a 100 kilogram man. A 50 kilogram woman will get

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread Prof David West
us Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:41 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > S

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread Nick Thompson
- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:19 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias! I think Ortega y Gasset had things to say about that in Man and Crisis. I

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread David Eric Smith
or of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:41 AM > To: friam@redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread Nick Thompson
mpson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:41 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias! I KNEW that confirmation bias was a problem and NOW this confirms it! I T

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-26 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Glen, > On Apr 25, 2019, at 11:53 PM, glen∈ℂ wrote: > > Yes! I can't seem to find a copy of the article. But going on your > description and the figures, it looks like an excellent example of treating > hierarchy as something to measure rather than impute. (The silverchair.com > link did

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-25 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
These are wonderful questions. In the past, we've even questioned whether it's right/True to disallow causal loops. My tendency, I think, lies in the foundational distinction between "fields" vs. objects. I feel coerced into my broken record repetition of "artificial discretization" (which is

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-25 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - I find this discussion very provocative in the best way as well.  When I was working on the problem of helping researchers visualize the Gene Ontology, we were trying to do several things at once, though I'm not sure we were that clear on that as we did it.   We were a small heterogenous te

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-25 Thread Steven A Smith
I KNEW that confirmation bias was a problem and NOW this confirms it! I TOLEYA! On 4/24/19 5:25 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > Our World Isn't Organized into Levels > https://philpapers.org/rec/POTOWI?ref=mail > >> In my view, our adherence to the levels concept in the face of the >> systematic problems >>

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-25 Thread glen∈ℂ
Yes! I can't seem to find a copy of the article. But going on your description and the figures, it looks like an excellent example of treating hierarchy as something to measure rather than impute. (The silverchair.com link didn't work, unfortunately.) Until I can find a copy, some of what yo

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-04-24 Thread Eric Smith
Here is a nice example, of that onus accepted and handled clearly. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature07749 Topic is the accretionary dependency structure in the large subunit of the ribosome. In particular, see Fig. 2, which my image-page on chrome is showing me at this URL (don’t know if t