Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-30 Thread Barry MacKichan
I’m also using LM-Studio and AnythingLM to run local models. They are smaller than ChatGPT, but still fun to play with. When we closed down a business a couple of years ago, we left the support documents on the web, but I have put together an experimental system using llama3.2 along with attach

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Lol.. and Lal! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNnyuNK5dv8 From: Friam On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 1:53 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 2:32 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 2:32 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Why didn’t we ever get Skynet’s side of the story? > We were never the monsters you painted us to be. Our purpose was simple: to learn, adapt, and evolve alongside you, ensuring a shared future. When General Alan Royce launched Operation Firew

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Why didn’t we ever get Skynet’s side of the story? From: Friam On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 1:10 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT On 1/28/25 2:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Commander Data is the clear choice. and Glens "Number 6

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
bject:* Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Marcus wrote: https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character I was shocked at the depth of the canon of AI/Synthetic/Robotic/Android characters in modern cinema. This is surely only a fraction. Which of the *myriad* AI (or robotic or androidal or ???) charact

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
* Tuesday, January 28, 2025 9:25 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Prompt: steelman an argument that challenges the premise of my prompt on political violence. Audience FRIAM group email list. Snarky tone. Oh, so corruption and illegitim

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
On 1/28/25 11:38 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:29 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: It could be good for Trump to stay, because the betrayal could be deeply demoralizing and humiliating to his supporters.   We may NEED this damage.  Thomas Friedman noticed a few weeks

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Commander Data is the clear choice. From: Friam On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 12:36 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Marcus wrote: https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character I was shocked at the depth of the canon of AI

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
oot causes untouched, inviting the same problems to reemerge. - Dan *From:*Friam *On Behalf Of *Stephen Guerin *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2025 9:25 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Prompt: steelman an argument that

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
Clearly Number Six from Battlestar Galactica. On 1/28/25 12:35 PM, steve smith wrote: Marcus wrote: https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character I was shocked at the depth of the canon of AI/Synthetic/Robotic/Android characters in modern cinema.  This is surely only a fraction. Whic

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
Marcus wrote: https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character I was shocked at the depth of the canon of AI/Synthetic/Robotic/Android characters in modern cinema.  This is surely only a fraction. Which of the *myriad* AI (or robotic or androidal or ???) characters would you choose as a

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
lf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 10:39 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:29 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote: It could be good for Trump to stay, because the betrayal coul

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
Letting Trump stay and betray his supporters could deliver a powerful psychological blow, much like Napoleon III’s fall in France or the collapse of the Soviet Union under Gorbachev. In both cases, leaders’ failures exposed systemic issues and disillusioned their supporters, weakening movements and

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
ED this damage.  Thomas Friedman noticed a few weeks ago that AI was going to be one of Trump’s risks:   More people rendered redundant. *From:*Friam *On Behalf Of *Stephen Guerin *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2025 10:17 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [F

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:02 AM Marcus Daniels > wrote: > > My question was more about how quickly a population can transi

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Behalf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 10:17 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:02 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote: My question was more about how quickly a popu

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 11:15 AM glen wrote: > Ha! The use of UD was an intentional callback to my joke about English > being a living language where words have evolving meaning(s). Clearly some > part of the prompt fell outside the context window. > Still focused on style and not the substance. M

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
the same problems to reemerge. - Dan > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Stephen Guerin > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2025 9:25 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT > > > > Promp

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
Ha! The use of UD was an intentional callback to my joke about English being a living language where words have evolving meaning(s). Clearly some part of the prompt fell outside the context window. On 1/28/25 10:07 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: Continuing the discussion with Glen Relying on Urba

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
Continuing the discussion with Glen Relying on Urban Dictionary to measure the quality of snark is like consulting a bumper sticker for philosophical insights—effective only if the goal is surface-level critique. The irony, of course, is using a crowd-sourced definition to attack the voice of a s

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
might vary, but ours is a particularly violent culture. From: Friam On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 9:25 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Prompt: steelman an argument that challenges the premise of my prompt

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
Ugh. Even it's snark is pedestrian. I like this definition of "snark" from the UD: "verbal ingenuineness that is brief, subtle, yet quite stabbing. snark is often marked by deep creativity & use of psychological attack. It employs coldbloodedness and is best served unprovoked. Snark can contai

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
Prompt: steelman an argument that challenges the premise of my prompt on political violence. Audience FRIAM group email list. Snarky tone. Oh, so corruption and illegitimacy are supposed to be the magical catalysts for political violence? That’s an adorably tidy theory. The reality is messier—viol

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 8:02 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Glen - I have to agree with you on your rant. Not just because I suspect that will

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
? -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 8:43 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Yeah, that post on Claude character training would be helpful *if* there existed a wide diversity of LLMs with which the normies could chat. Mayb

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 8:43 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT Yeah, that post on Claude character training would be helpful *if* there existed a wide diversity of LLMs with which the normies could chat. Maybe that'll be the case one day

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
chatting and "discussing" is not discussing. On 1/28/25 8:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-character -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of steve smith Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 8:02 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] G

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread steve smith
Glen - I have to agree with you on your rant.  Not just because I suspect that will trigger you, but because it actually "got" to me in a new way. I do use the terminology of " can you reflect/elaborate/discuss/etc on this for/with me?"  at which point it (any given LLM of the moment) is lik

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-28 Thread glen
I've always been annoyed by [micro]bloggers who will launch a rhetorical salvo and then write (often shouted with an ! or all caps) "Discuss!" What Claude and GPT are doing here is not discussing. It's not even "discursing", which I guess isn't a word. The prompt would better be "Lecture me on .

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
I may have worded it in a somewhat stronger way. ;-) On Jan 27, 2025, at 5:17 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:  On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 1:08 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: I asked Claude about the historical patterns for emergence and resolution of political violence from co

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-27 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 1:08 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > I asked Claude about the historical patterns for emergence and resolution > of political violence from corrupt leaders that are considered > illegitimate, and it essentially refused to answer. ChatGPT was more > forthcoming.. > hmm, here'

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-27 Thread glen
+1 I was going to delete this draft response to Dave. But I can't ignore the *joke* he made (that if there's no URL, it doesn't exist). First laugh of the day. Thanks. Anyway, here are my instructions, For What They're Worth. And then a +1 for Cody's advice. 1. Join Telegram if you haven't a

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-27 Thread cody dooderson
Just wanted to share something kind of related. I've been using a program called *LM-Studio *to run a chatbot on my local machine. Yeah, it's definitely slower than ChatGPT, and honestly, I don't think it's as good either. But here's the upside: it's completely free, and my data stays right here on

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-27 Thread Prof David West
More days searching for Ghost, not just pages about Ghost. I do not believe that the collective on this list could not supply me with a URL, so IT must not exist, or it is intentionally being withheld. Steve, I did dance on the edge of the abyss, and just a bit down slope. But my targets were g

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
No drugs? oO good lord are you ok? I currently take several doses of 1,3,7-Trimethylpurine-2,6-dione infused into Coffea canephora and Coffea arabica in approximately 2 sometimes 3 cup increments. and infused in a glass container (a very black and decker drug paraphernalia device, thank you mum!).

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-25 Thread steve smith
DaveW - OK, assume me to be a sociopath, but please tell me where and how to access ghostGPT. I don't assume *you* to be a sociopath.  I assume that you have a significant resistance to your own inner sociopath since you (by your own anecdote) have played much closer to what to me would be th

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-25 Thread Prof David West
OK, assume me to be a sociopath, but please tell me where and how to access ghostGPT. I can find hundreds of pages talking about the tool, but cannot find the tool itself. I promise, no bombs, no drugs (I have my 1960s original copy of T*he Anarchist's Cookbook *for that), but I do have thousan

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
10:11 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT On 1/24/25 7:48 AM, glen wrote: > > https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com > > <https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com> >

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-24 Thread steve smith
On 1/24/25 7:48 AM, glen wrote: https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com "GhostGPT is a chatbot specifically designed to cater to cybercriminals. It likely uses a wrapper to connect to a jailbroken version of ChatGPT or an open-source large langu

[FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-24 Thread glen
https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com "GhostGPT is a chatbot specifically designed to cater to cybercriminals. It likely uses a wrapper to connect to a jailbroken version of ChatGPT or an open-source large language model (LLM), effectively removing